Return of the King, Is FUT a Second Job? & The SBC Gem Controversy | FUT IN REVIEW #746
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Return of the King, Is FUT a Second Job? & The SBC Gem Controversy | FUT IN REVIEW #746

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Four hosts jump into a fast-moving panel on the state of FUT, focusing on grind versus fun, AI defending, evolutions, and the new SBC system. The discussion is driven by hot takes and timed reactions, with John, Homer, John K, and Ingve each bringing a different perspective on what feels rewarding, what feels punishing, and what EA may need to change.

00:00 β€” New four-person panel format and the return of Ingve

01:03 β€” Ingve’s background, health update, and FUT history

02:03 β€” How the hot-take format and timed rounds will work

03:12 β€” Topic 1: FUT feels like a second job

04:20 β€” Why grinding every objective can ruin the experience

05:23 β€” Small upgrades and why the game can still feel unrewarding

07:12 β€” Objectives versus packs: predictable rewards win

08:17 β€” Why Gauntlet and squad depth make grinding harder

09:14 β€” Club depth and why Evo teams struggle

11:30 β€” Final take on grind versus fun

11:56 β€” Topic 2: AI defending and whether removing it was EA’s best change

12:36 β€” Fullbacks drifting wide, penalties, and defensive AI issues

14:13 β€” More goals, but less realism

15:24 β€” Why less AI help rewards better players

16:29 β€” The downside for players who keep losing

17:40 β€” Matchmaking and balance concerns

19:11 β€” Manual defending and the lack of in-game instruction

19:49 β€” Stronger manual tackles and the auto-offside problem

21:21 β€” Final verdict on AI defending

22:48 β€” Topic 3: Are Evolutions viable for casual players?

24:47 β€” Why Evo cards are behind the power curve

25:53 β€” Why themed Evo squads still struggle competitively

27:27 β€” Can Evolutions catch up?

29:24 β€” A better model for lower-league and favorite players

31:38 β€” Why current Evo rules can feel like a coin sink

32:37 β€” Ideas for faster modes, cosmetics, and shorter matches

34:05 β€” Topic 4: Old SBCs versus the new gem-based system

35:01β€” Ingve on losing pack rewards

36:03 β€” John K on the speed and simplicity of the new system

37:03 β€” Homer on chemistry stress and transfer-market abuse

38:45 β€” Why high-rated fodder still limits access

42:17 β€” Why SBC value is harder to judge

43:42 β€” Cherry-picking the best SBCs

45:12 β€” Outro and where to find the show

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Four hosts jump into a fast-moving panel on the state of FUT, focusing on grind versus fun, AI defending, evolutions, and the new SBC system. The discussion is driven by hot takes and timed reactions, with John, Homer, John K, and Ingve each bringing a different perspective on what feels rewarding, what feels punishing, and what EA may need to change.

00:00 β€” New four-person panel format and the return of Ingve

01:03 β€” Ingve’s background, health update, and FUT history

02:03 β€” How the hot-take format and timed rounds will work

03:12 β€” Topic 1: FUT feels like a second job

04:20 β€” Why grinding every objective can ruin the experience

05:23 β€” Small upgrades and why the game can still feel unrewarding

07:12 β€” Objectives versus packs: predictable rewards win

08:17 β€” Why Gauntlet and squad depth make grinding harder

09:14 β€” Club depth and why Evo teams struggle

11:30 β€” Final take on grind versus fun

11:56 β€” Topic 2: AI defending and whether removing it was EA’s best change

12:36 β€” Fullbacks drifting wide, penalties, and defensive AI issues

14:13 β€” More goals, but less realism

15:24 β€” Why less AI help rewards better players

16:29 β€” The downside for players who keep losing

17:40 β€” Matchmaking and balance concerns

19:11 β€” Manual defending and the lack of in-game instruction

19:49 β€” Stronger manual tackles and the auto-offside problem

21:21 β€” Final verdict on AI defending

22:48 β€” Topic 3: Are Evolutions viable for casual players?

24:47 β€” Why Evo cards are behind the power curve

25:53 β€” Why themed Evo squads still struggle competitively

27:27 β€” Can Evolutions catch up?

29:24 β€” A better model for lower-league and favorite players

31:38 β€” Why current Evo rules can feel like a coin sink

32:37 β€” Ideas for faster modes, cosmetics, and shorter matches

34:05 β€” Topic 4: Old SBCs versus the new gem-based system

35:01β€” Ingve on losing pack rewards

36:03 β€” John K on the speed and simplicity of the new system

37:03 β€” Homer on chemistry stress and transfer-market abuse

38:45 β€” Why high-rated fodder still limits access

42:17 β€” Why SBC value is harder to judge

43:42 β€” Cherry-picking the best SBCs

45:12 β€” Outro and where to find the show

[00:00:00] Welcome to FUT IN REVIEW episode 746. I'm your host John and tonight we are running a brand new panel format. We've got four people at the table, four massive topics on the board and a hard 45 minute timer on the clock. Joining me tonight are Graeme Homer, John Kirkham, Good evening and Star The Drums. He's back from the north.

[00:00:29] Our own Kit Harington, The Return of the King. It's Yngwie. Welcome back my friend. Hello, hello. It's great to be back. It's been a long while mate. How are you doing? Yeah, it's been too long. I'm doing much better now so it's very nice to be able to sit here today and join the show again. I'm really looking forward to it. For people that don't know you, which seems weird to say but it's been a couple of weeks.

[00:00:59] Yeah. Introduce yourself mate. Well, I'm Yngwie. Got to know Jon many years ago and we started talking about podcasts and I think there were lots of people talking and Jon and me were probably the only ones that kind of took the plunge and dared to do it and we just jumped into it.

[00:01:20] Yeah, we kind of just learn new stuff every time we did a show. So it's been a fun bumpy ride. It's not been fun being away but my health has been a little bit bad last year.

[00:01:33] So I couldn't join but now I'm getting better. So I'm hoping to be able to join more and more and I've been playing the game since 2011 on Ultimate Team but also tried all the way back to FIFA 96, 97 those old, old, old versions as well. Not bad for a 16 year old. Mixed letters almost.

[00:02:01] It is very good to have you back mate and if you want Yngwie back more often drop a comment in of course the Spotify comments or the YouTube link and we'll definitely see if we can push him to come back more and more.

[00:02:14] Hey guys, four men on the show. I usually don't like four men shows. This is how tonight will work. I'm going to drop a hot take statement for a topic. You give me a quick agreed or disagreed and then we run a eight minute deep dive on the clock. I am keeping time to make your points count. Is it clear for everyone? Yep. Yep.

[00:02:39] All right. So I will start the clock the moment I give someone the word and we're going to start with Yngwie of course we don't agree or disagree. Number one is all about content and mentality. The grind versus fun. We will cover the future star promo and ESPC's objectives and gameplay versus reward mentality with this statement. Food feels less like a video game and more like a second job.

[00:03:06] EA is pushing pure grind and store packs which has completely killed the excitement of new content and organic fun. Yngwie, take it away. I agree. John? Exactly agree. Gee. I'm sort of on the fence so I'll say I disagree. Disagree. Let's start with you then first, Gee. The timer's running. Let's take it away.

[00:03:32] Just for the sole factor is that you don't need to really do everything. I get the whole, the FOMO, the fear of missing out and you might not have that card this week but there'll be generally another card that's equally as good the next week or the week after. So the need to grind everything doesn't really need to be done. I get why people do it but if it has such an impact on you I think sometimes it's better to take a wee step back, take a break, enjoy other things in life.

[00:04:02] The game will still be there. You'll still get something that's just as good. Oh, no whole thing I see you. Well, I disagree with it. On you go, Evie. Jump in. You've been missing for a while so go on. Yeah.

[00:04:19] It's like a job because if I want to improve my team now with the pack weight and everything I have to kind of try to jump onto every objective, do lots of SPCs with fodder I don't have and I need to play modes to be able to get packs and bags to get coins to be able to buy players to be able to put in an SPC. And if I just do this casually, my team would be so horrible if I tried to go in rivals or in champs.

[00:04:46] I would have to be really, really, really, really good to be able to kind of get some decent results for them to get the packs to be able to improve my team. And with the evolution being like they have been so far, I would need to play to get packs to improve my team. And it's a little bit demotivating when you see your team is falling behind even though you do so much. And yeah, the wallet is screaming for open up, open up. But I say no.

[00:05:19] So I'm going to jump in and back up both people, even though I think there's a bit of a, it's a grind, right? So I'm not playing as much as I have played in previous games at the start. And that's because twofold, a little bit under the weather, not enjoying the game as much as I have previous games. But also that whole piece of when you're getting beat 6-0, 7-0, 9-2, 5-1, 6-1, 6-3, whatever the score is, but you're on a horrible run.

[00:05:49] And it's not a fun game. But like Evie says, the problem is you think, if I can just get some more packs and I can maybe just pull a better player, you know what, maybe I can get that striker that's better than that 6-2 composure striker that I'm running around with. Or I can get that goalie that's got more than one hand or three fingers. And all you're looking for is that small, always for my eyes, it's a small upgrade. You're looking for small upgrades.

[00:06:17] It's, yeah, it would be great if we all got R9, but it wouldn't be great because then where do you go from that? So what you're looking for. But again, so I've not done champs. I've only played seven rivals games. I've done an awful lot of live events and probably more squad battles than I'd like to. My team isn't great. I haven't pulled anything fantastic. And it's just not fun. That is the hard way.

[00:06:46] It's the way to describe it. So I think there's a balance though. Like Graham says, you don't have to play everything. So I haven't played champs. I haven't grinded rivals. But I have grinded the rest. And that's not been a fun experience because they're not great modes. Are like the objectives, they're not worth your time either? I think there's pretty cool players and objectives now. And cool rewards. I think it's more rewarding when you do objectives. Just go out and find an objective. Chip away at that. You're guaranteed to get what you get.

[00:07:15] You get a pack. It's random. So let's say the one during the week, you get Gonzalo Ramos. Chip away at that. You've got a card. It's quite good. He's probably going to get updated along the way because he's a pretty good finisher. He plays for AC Milan. They're doing okay. They'll probably do better once they start to gel. So I'd rather, when I'm grinding, I concentrate on what is easy to achieve and gets a good result

[00:07:40] back rather than the mindless or aimless going down the rabbit hole trying to complete everything because generally, I don't think you get much back in return. So... Can I just jump in? Is that the gauntlet you're talking about? The gauntlet reward player? Yeah, I think it was. It must be. Yeah, I think it was gauntlet. And this time around, it wasn't a wind cap that you could just... Oh, right. You had to get eight out of ten, I think it was.

[00:08:08] So there was ones that was, you could end it quite quickly and you got slightly better rewards. I'll need to look at that then because... I'm going to jump in. I hate gauntlet. This whole four teams can't play the same team twice. It goes back to what Evie says. You need to have a big club of big players to churn that out. Otherwise, I'm going in with no chemistry and I'm going in with some bronzes or whatever.

[00:08:35] I don't have a great club at the minute because I do the 79 times three, the team of the week upgrade, the 83 plus, whatever the SPCs are, hoping for... Not... Yeah, we'd all love a Dembele, but an 85, an 86, an 87. I'm putting in 11, 12, 13, 14 players and getting three back. My club hasn't got players to run four squads at the minute and we're only three or four weeks in.

[00:09:02] If you want to spend money, you've maybe got three or four squads and again, but that's just my particular outlook on it. I can also add the thing that on gauntlet there's only two squads at the moment, but I still struggle to get two decent teams because I've used so many players, as you said, John, in the SPCs to try to get that one a little bit better player. Maybe a good goalkeeper, maybe a good striker.

[00:09:29] So the teams are very unbalanced. I've managed to win two in a row in gauntlet, but it was very difficult and people are very toxic at the moment. So, well, you can't make many mistakes before you're punished really hard in the game now. And it doesn't help when the AI defenders like to make a few fouls themselves to help the opponent. So, yeah. Penalty! Penalty!

[00:10:00] That's a topic for a different time, though. Yeah. That's good insight. Thanks for that. Because I genuinely assumed the gauntlet was, again, this three and four squad thing, but there's only two. I'll have a look at it then. So, although I'm not part of this discussion, I feel like just doing some objectives, getting Mika and Marmol from the season pass, getting some decent players from the season pass, I find by just playing, the team's pretty decent, no?

[00:10:29] John, I've got 13 of those one-to-watch cards, 12 maybe, whatever it is. They don't give you chemistry. So, I think I've got one one-to-watch in my team. LeCroix? I can't pronounce his name properly. Apologies for that, right? LeCroix. LeCroix. Thank you. But I'm running with Dumfries at right back, the Real Madrid left back at left back, some Spanish goalkeeper that isn't one of the meta ones.

[00:10:58] You've got 15 seconds to make your point, mate. Basically, I've got all these one-to-watches, John, they don't fit my team because you don't get chemistry. Fair enough. All right. Our time is almost over. Anyone want an ending statement? Nope. I think we're good. Guys, I want to see if you change your opinion. So, if we talk about food, food feels less like a video game, more like a second job. AIMV said, agreed. Do you still agree? Yeah, I still do.

[00:11:27] Because even though I want to try to have fun, it still turns out to be a grind and a job because you see how kind of behind you are all the time, at least for me. All right. If you are listening to the show and you do agree or you disagree, drop it in the comments. Anyone else change their opinions? Because I also move on to topic number two. Yeah. Right. Dang. Great pacing, guys. Great pacing, guys. I want to talk.

[00:11:56] Let's go this way. Let's go this way. AI defending being gone is the best thing EA has done ever. Yngwie. I don't know if it's the best thing, but I do like that you have to kind of control your defenders because that's what I... Agree or disagree? I can't agree that it's the best thing, no. All right. Joel? More agree. All right. G?

[00:12:26] I agree. Agree. Okay. Let's go with Yngwie first and eight minutes starts now. Yeah. It's, of course, nice that the EA wants us to do a little bit of our job when defending, but the problem is that the EA... We already have a second job. Yeah. The problem is that the EA... I don't mind the EA players. You need to kind of get them in position, but I do that all the time. But suddenly the fullbacks want to go and make sure that the opponent is never offside.

[00:12:53] And when I'm defending and moving and really doing well to defend the opponent, and suddenly where the ball is somewhere else on the other side of the defense, the AI defender runs into an attacker and it's a penalty. And it's happened so many times. It happens every day I play. And I don't press any buttons or anything, but the AI defender just runs down the opponent's penalty. Must be an obedient thing, though. Or isn't it, John?

[00:13:22] I've certainly not seen what easy to that extent. And the AI defending being totally cut back, removed, whatever way you want to call it. Let's be honest. Like I was saying in my last mini rant, there are goals. There are lots of goals. We'll do one show, John, where we just do rants. Where you can just... No, not at all. Sorry, troops. Sorry, team. But there are lots of goals, right? And that's not a bad thing, because remember a couple of FIFAs ago? Every game was 1-0. Yeah.

[00:13:52] This is not the case now. You watch Twitch. You watch YouTube. You watch anything. You play your games, and there are goals to be had. So that is quite good. At the minute, I think we're just waiting to find out where we all settle or sit. So, like I said, I've not played a lot of rivals. The seven that I've played, I won five, lost two. So it's not a bad start. But I just... That's the positive. That is the positive. And I did say it was a positive.

[00:14:22] So there's goals to be had. My problem is actually attacking AI, not defensive AI. But that's a different question. So at the minute, having it removed and having goals. But it's not realistic, because winning a game 6-5, 7-1, 9-1, 8-3... Oh, I saw England for Scotland last week. Sounds pretty realistic to me. Excuse me? Excuse me? Back in your box, John.

[00:14:52] Sorry. I was waiting for that one to be made for a full week now. No, no, no. I mean, yes, I know England won 7-0, and we got beat 3-1, but we didn't... You know, but... I was just kidding. It's not real life. We've got, like, our biggest audience in Scotland. I'm not doing anything to insult anyone there. I was just taking a little dig at you. Sorry, man. No, not at all. Not at all. I think she has a certain opinion on this one. I do agree with Ingvi, but the full-backs,

[00:15:22] they do annoy me. They do keep the other players onside, and they drift wide, leave great spaces to be attacked into. When you do that, your centre-backs then start going wider to try and close that space that leaves a space in the middle. That does irritate me, but the whole grand scheme of the thing, I really like it being AI. The amount of people that you had played last year, that you just know the AI would have carried them a result or a draw against you, where this year,

[00:15:52] you're playing guys that the AI's not there. They hold their hand and you just smash them. And I know that might be a bit selfish, and it might be a bit demoralising for some people, and I feel for them on that skill level sort of thing, but I'm glad when there's that now place where people that should win are winning based on their talent rather than what the AI's helping them are covering up that flaw in their skill gap. So, overall, it's great.

[00:16:21] I think that they've reduced the level AI for me. I would say, though as a caveat, sorry, John, I need to jump in here, right? There is a bit that says, and somebody in the Discord has actually messaged me to say, if this continues like this, he will not continue playing, right? Now, that simply is because while you're saying people that deserve to win should win, and that is a positive thing. If you're not that great at playing and you're losing time after time after time,

[00:16:51] then what makes you want to play the game? Yeah, this is your relaxation, your fun, love of football, whatever it is, but if you're not winning games at all and you're getting no help, there is that bit that says, and it's really harsh, get better, or the other thing is, you just don't play. So it's a balancing act and you have to watch that because right now we're all into it, but there's all these other games coming, Warcraft Forever, Grand Theft, Dolph 6,

[00:17:21] a new Call of Duty, whatever is coming, right? There's a lot of people will just go, I'm going to go somewhere else if I just get beat game after game after game. So that's all I'm going to say they have to watch that, but they're not making any patches yet. To be honest, I think a lot of people would drift away regardless, last year we've seen people drift away, the year before we've seen people drift away, people will drift away and I've always said personally, I love the game, but I don't spend every second I have on it, I will play other games

[00:17:50] to take that break and like I said, I feel sorry for people that are getting beat, but the ladder should be in a way that they are protected. We have skill-based matchmaking for that reason, so they should be on that level with the same people and I know obviously pack lock and things that may also favour some odds than other people, but right now I've seen online, I think myself and a few other people said the mid-division seem to be

[00:18:19] either people are sandbagging or the upper lecturers are still struggling themselves to get out of these mid-tables, so it's a couple weeks once that ladder. It's just week three, aye? Yeah, it's only week three, week four if you got the early release, I'm division six, the cusp of division five. Normally I'd be division three by this time, so even myself I'm finding it hard to get up the ladder at the moment.

[00:18:48] It will balance its way out, but if there's another game comes out, I think you should enjoy it. Take that little break, maybe that helps you that you're not coming back in with that mentality of I've been smashed every game, I'm going to get smashed again, maybe that wee break could be a good mental reset for some people. isn't also, I think the manual defending is fine, right? Put it in, show it on level, but there is no hand-holding from EA

[00:19:17] at all to teach you how to actually play. I think that's a little bit of a difficult factor, right? They changed it to be fully manual, but they don't even tell anyone how you can properly jockey or how to time tackle. So if you are not a very very good player that's very much into this game, how can you adapt to this? Except of course listening to this podcast, Igrin. Yeah, you need to kind of do your own research

[00:19:47] now. There are lots of content creators covering how to defend, how to make sure that you do attacking patterns, et cetera, et cetera. One thing is which is positive this year with the defending is that when you tackle, you usually get the ball actually. When you manually tackle, the tackle seems much stronger than if you let the AI kind of bump into the player. So that I really, really like because I'm winning much more tackles and the ball stays with my players and not the straight back bounce back.

[00:20:17] That I can say that I really like. The only thing is a little bit annoying when you face the ones that has the 95 death thing. The auto offside thing is crazy. So there are a few matches that takes a few seconds to kind of kick in. Okay, he's doing that. Then you can get some nice through balls. But if you don't know how to play around it, it's like 40 offsides during a match. I think he already said that they're watching that auto offside

[00:20:46] that's a little bit excessive. It will get changed, I'm sure. I think it's good they not change everything right now. Give some people a little bit of adaption possibility. And I agree with the fact like people will drift away from it. If EA patches it, there's also going to be people drifting away. If they don't, this is probably the smartest way to get a more balanced game in the end run. So I appreciate that. Time's up though, so we can't talk about this anymore.

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[00:22:43] So I might take some good topics there. Oh, there's so much to discuss. There's so much to discuss. But let's, I wanted to go into female players, but after last week's comments being exploded and I got a lot of hate mail and a lot of positive mail on my doormat, I think I might just let the male man take a breather this week. Let's not go into that topic, shall we? I want to talk about evolution.

[00:23:13] Because EA said this year that evolutions will be slowed down a little bit to, well, be informed with the power curve, correct? So I want to know that is evos this year, are evolutions this year a failed future for the casual slash team players or are they balanced corrected as a secondary option? So let me just rephrase that and say, are evos a failed future

[00:23:43] for casual slash team players? Let's start with Yngwie. And the eight minutes starts right after. The evolutions this year, they have been kind of nerfed a lot. Well, EA is told that they were going to agree or disagree. Yes, they're bad this year. John doesn't want to talk anymore. They're bad, they're bad, they're bad.

[00:24:13] He was so enthusiastic about that topic that his microphone actually dropped off. Okay, Kareem. I think they are bad, yeah. Oh, we found something. they said that there's something that I could argue, but no, they're bad. All right, I think the one with the rules is the best thing ever in this game, but let's not go there. Let's ask Yngwie, and now you can start your eight minutes. Why do you think they're bad? They are

[00:24:42] too far behind. You can do lots of evolutional players, and they won't, well, you can put them in your team, but they're going to kind of handicap your team so much that they will be a liability, unless you're almost a top-level player. And I think it's okay if you have chill modes, where you can do objectives and just relax and don't stress, but the problem is that none of these live events are, I wouldn't call them

[00:25:12] chill modes at all. Even squad battles are so much more difficult after EA changed the difficulty levels on all the tiers there. So, yeah, they need to kind of push them a little bit. I don't expect them to be on par with the curve, but maybe just below them that's fine, because then the player would still be able to do a decent job in any teams. But if you want to go with a full Evo team, then you're in trouble.

[00:25:42] You're going to get smashed unless you're a pro almost, I think. Yeah, I mean, I've joined like, I've got trying to Evo my Saints team, right? And on paper, when you look at it, it looks great. I think I've got five or six goals now, a couple of silvers, but even now, the striker that I'm Evoing will be an 82 rated once I play one more game, and he's going to have 83 or 84 pace, 83 or 84 shooting, and he's got 62

[00:26:12] composure. You know what I mean? Fair, no? He's the top goal scorer in the league at the moment, you behave yourself, right? So you need to understand what the Scottish Premier League's like, but again, is he going to go into my... I know, trust me, I know. would I take that guy into my rivals, or potentially champs? Absolutely not. So he's sitting there in a totally separate team that I'm just doing a little bit of squad

[00:26:42] battles, or maybe bringing them off for 10 minutes in a live lounge, right? And that is the problem. So again, if he had 80 composure or 79 composure, he could maybe even be my top, my starting striker, because there's a loyalty thing, you like to play with the players that you like, but right now, he's not getting in my team. My midfielders are gold and not getting in my team, and it just feels that they just feel like they're still weeks away from

[00:27:11] getting into your starting team, but in weeks, they'll still be weeks behind, and I think that is the challenge. You the rate, like they say, they like to watch and see what's happening, so if they're consistent with that talk, and they do review it and go, yeah, they are a bit behind, and decide to be a little bit more relaxed through the handbrake

[00:27:41] and reward us more, then obviously they could catch up, but it's all the catch up. Normally, this time last year, I had a Rangers team that I could play in rivals, and I could win. A lot of them had playstyle pluses. This year, none of them have playstyle pluses, I think. We only started with two golds this year. Now, I think I've only got silver seven that are left silver, give or take. I've got one informed because Selen got informed, but generally they struggle in squad battles,

[00:28:11] never mind anywhere else. I took it in a gauntlet match and I lost quite badly because they just weren't up to scratch. So, I can see why they've done it, but I don't think it's worked out the same way as other things that they've done. So, hopefully, they do pull that trigger. And I would say it's partially their own fault because the community always looks for not the meta, but basically, yes, they're

[00:28:41] looking for any loophole to take a really good player and make them the better player. and obviously that's what he said, they weren't going to let that happen. No player in a current evolution will be better than the current promotional player and I get all that, but right now it's handicapping. Now, you could turn around and say that I think St Johnstone started with two silvers, so therefore the fact that I've only got a couple of silvers and a couple of bronzes left and I've got

[00:29:11] most of them gold, I have taken that team quite a step, but it's not a step that you can use them in any sort of competitive match. I have something I want to add. EA, they can put all kind of requirements on these evolution, it seems, so why don't they give evolutions that boost more, but then it's kind of lock out the top five leagues, that would help, for example. Then you could get new players up that are not like the typical

[00:29:41] promo type of players that you see every year, every month, and then just let the lower league players and the fans of those leagues be able to get players up close to the promo cards, and then you don't have to kind of chase the packs, the SPCs, or every objective, then you could do it more relaxing. That's also not fair, Evie, because you could throw any club under the bus, but let's take Man United, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, massive team, one of the biggest teams in the world,

[00:30:11] and they've still got their reputation, but there are not many Man United players in FC 27 that you're desperate to have in your first team, unless you're a Man United player, and they'll all be saying, I would like to evo this Man United player, I would like to make this Man United player good enough to be competitive in rivals or champs, where at the minute Bruno maybe, a bit slow in the pace but really good passing play styles, who else is there guys in the Man United team that you would desperately want to play,

[00:30:41] if you were to pull them, would you go, oh I can't wait to play him in my first team? I'm not insulting Man United players either today, I'm taking away from this one. Do you know what I come from John? If you pulled a Bon Matty or you pulled a Pina let's get them in your team. I don't even know who the Man United fullbacks are now. Is

[00:31:15] used to be too strong last year. think we can all agree on that because they could outpower any of the new cards coming out. That's probably not the

[00:31:45] you probably want to do that as well. Else your team won't have plus plus on everyone. But it does nothing to do with evolution a favorite player of you. So I think there's still a little bit lost this year what they should do but I think we can all agree on that it actually doesn't make much sense to do many currently if you're also playing competitive but if you're not playing competitive food is not the mode for you and that's a discussion I think we'll have on a different show because there's currently no other way than

[00:32:15] to play competitive make a evolution mode where six of your players has to be evolutions for example then suddenly it all makes sense or maximize the team rating stuff like that or make it a top five thing excluded or maybe the modes could be maybe first to three as well so because then you'll be able to evo the players a little bit faster you don't have to play all full matches and even though you maybe lose a few matches

[00:32:45] but then your evolution players will not every player looks the same it's just small things kits special kits and things like that as prices also and some decent packs player picks once your team is up to scratch and you can kind of compete again and

[00:33:14] you don't spend too much time being beat like 9-10-0 if you I'm sure that will come yeah good points but unfortunately out of time if you think as evolutions are bad drop it in the comments because we like to take your opinion on it but I think everyone on this panel agrees they're currently not

[00:33:44] on par last topic of the show the last thing I hand out with everything involved with this from statistics to fables to numbers like everything was worked out unfortunately you only get 8 minutes to talk

[00:34:14] about this currently but maybe we should do a different show about it or if Chris works it out we might be able to do three weeks of shows about it but the new SBC let's call the retalk SBC the SBC the old chemistry and was 100 times better than today's system where everything is pushed by icon gems and store packs do you agree or disagree Yngwie I agree John disagree

[00:34:43] G we broke G disagree let's start with Yngwie you like the old system better Yngwie 8 minutes go in now mate yeah if you do the new SBC which I think was crazy priced compared to whatever the every pretty much every else of the species same type of SBC players we've had so far and I put pretty much

[00:35:13] my whole club and you only get that player you do normally the old system you will get some packs and then you could use them in one of the other steps in the SBC and that would help you you might even pack a player you could

[00:35:44] just got one player back no packs nothing I can't even imagine doing an SBC to be fair that's a different point but it it it it it it it's I don't like it at all it's just not a lot of the

[00:36:14] new so I think like anything in the past where it would be five squads four squads 89 rated squad whatever it was you would weigh up the decision and

[00:36:44] submit i think that's a great thing i think it just saves so much time and effort it saves you having to worry about chemistry and how many 89s i just think it's nice and simple i like it so i said i disagreed so i do agree with envy's point about the the lack of payback and rewards i get that but then ea will probably trip back with the we're giving you more coins so you could

[00:37:08] buy players and everything for me it's one time save so much time just click click click and where you go you've not have to let bring out your football anorak and use your iq of like what player will match for this player to get me the chemistry that plays for this team that plays for that team that plays in that league but you're going to have four players from that league and you've got to have three from this club and removes all that absolute time sink

[00:37:34] too just you're no longer hampered by the or only if i could put in two rodries i could get this overall no because you can fire into rodries and be gone with that removes that it removes that whole being um at the behold of traders so traders will find out what these spcs are so if it was that you needed a certain rate and then a certain chemistry but you didn't have the players in your club you'd

[00:37:59] have to go to the transfer market the transfer market on low look they're now maximum price of 10 000 20 000 or they have that coins they want to spend that coins now it's they can't alter the transfer market to their benefits because there's no statue of what players you need so again this will for me the negative is you don't get the rod back but for me the positive is just it's time

[00:38:25] there's less abuse by traders you can use repeatable with players just there's so many benefits to it for me i saw a very strict hat shaking from engfee in that conversation yeah the problem is that of course if you are very lucky and pack some decent rated players disease it's fine but if i want to do like a 40 gem 40 000 gem player spc now i can probably submit all my players that i don't use

[00:38:54] and i still wouldn't get close to uh maybe 25 000 gems i need to pack higher rated players or i need to buy them and i don't have coins to buy those players either so uh i'm kind of stuck i want to just do a player that might not be that super good but i know it will be good for an evolution does it's not expensive if you look at kind of the gem price in theory uh but i won't be able to do it because i

[00:39:20] don't have the players i don't have the coins to buy the players and then i'm stuck i don't get anything back so i can kind of have a little bit of luck on the way so uh again i i do get that evie but i've looked at all the players that have come out so far and apart from the team of the week ones um i don't think i've done any for a guaranteed player name um and it literally is simply because i've done the 83 pluses when they were out they've 80 times five not that it's worth it but i've done

[00:39:49] that um if it's an actual player i now look at it and go right for the 25 000 40 000 75 000 gems um if that's what we're calling them i simply go would that player go on my team and for how long no i'm not spending half my club for that player i'll just wait and that's my rationale at the minute but for the ones that i have done i think it's a great system sorry yeah but if suddenly a st johnson

[00:40:17] player comes really good it's very close maybe a pound par on the power curve it's like 200 000 gems and you know who's got 200 000 gems come on no man but yeah well it's 1.3 it's 1.3 million for pina but then yeah but okay but let's say one of it's like 90 000 gems then it's still not easy to get 90 000 gems you have to submit everything you pack and you have to play everything and uh you need a

[00:40:47] little bit luck on the way to be able to do that especially even though it's out for a month because i do get that and then i don't i don't mind the the play where you get the five players back and things like that though those are cheap those are easy but if you want to do something over 10 000 gems and 12 000 gems then you kind of have to i need might be like to put some points in to get

[00:41:12] a few packs to get get a few players or you have to play there right geo maybe clarify this better than me but i'll come back to a little bit that pack like you talked about right so i've got i packed the hurricane he just sits on my bench right um now at the minute he's i think 11 or 12 000 gems so he carries would carry quite a chunk of my sbc but at the minute i'm still not using him because no player

[00:41:38] so far is worth me swapping hurricane plus other players for said player but if that was a st johnson player that was a team of the week or something and i would be like absolutely hurricane would go in and so would my other 80 night so with my patch o because he's sitting on the bench because i get no chemistry if i haven't patched on my team so they're literally there because they're caught their

[00:42:01] their token value is high rather than i'm using them as a player so i definitely think i still think it's a great thing and to be fair we did some polls on socials i think it's really 50 50 to be honest in this one still and i think it also doesn't help that ea doesn't put everything on one the one system or the other system yet because most of them are also halfway through um i think what ingvi

[00:42:29] says i think that's the biggest thing is the rewards what i find strange is that i can't i can't estimate the value of an sbc currently because you know it was these amounts of squats that was okay it's it's a lot of not now i see how this these amounts of gems i'm like brain damage can't do it yet it will we'll get there but it'll take a little bit um and now we're out of the clock anyways but i was what i do like the best about this system just a little bit of my

[00:42:57] lazy uh menu grinder system in this is you know when they put out an sbc and they're like hey there's uh 29 squats to do and i'm like okay let's start halfway through i'm like oh i might not make it this could be this could be an issue how many weeks do i have left this time around it's like let me see if i can do it put in what i've got i can't do it yet but i didn't lose anything either yet

[00:43:23] i think that's for me it's the biggest advance of the new system first the old system but then again i don't like the menu play in this game at all right i'm i'm just like to play so the more they simplify it for me and the faster they make it it's usually good but i can definitely see the standpoint and again drop it in the comment what your point is and we might make a poll of this one because i think this is about except if you talk female players not but you hold this topic at

[00:43:53] the moment do people like these new sbcs or not i do think i quite like the re-roll stuff the gold re-rolls and silver rules so i think that those are pretty cool just a quick thing uh how many gems do you think a 29 squad sbc player would cost with new system i have no idea mate probably a million players or something yeah but roughly the same as maybe more than what rafina and pina does probably

[00:44:22] but that's all right because that is the other thing though the higher the game gets uh sort of the more dupes you can gather so if you're not like you want to do sb every sbc i think this system sort of more allows you to cherry pick your sbcs and to be fair when you look at all the sbcs i think you need to cherry pick it because one there are not many very good one yet two if there are good ones they're very expensive so you probably toss your club and like you did with musa

[00:44:51] or people will do with afina or with pina i just waiting for my hanshi musa sbc by the way but that's a different topic as well yeah it's gonna cost 500 000 gems if it comes out so start saving then i don't want to do it so no i'll get a 78 rate and evolution them in a sorry guys thank you so much i quite like this topic uh this way of

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