[00:00:10] Welcome back foodies to FUT IN REVIEW episode 747. We are nearing the 750 official episodes, but as someone mentioned this morning, this is my 1100th episode as a host. Which, well, means I'm either doing this far too long, or we're off to another 1100th episode as well.
[00:00:36] My name's John and I'll be your host tonight. And yes, if you're looking at the YouTube or Spotify version, you can see it. It's yet another four men show. With me tonight is, of course, John Kirkham. Welcome. Thank you again, John. Congratulations on 1100th shows. Cheers, mate. With us tonight on a Friday, he's there as well. It's Neil Bullseye.
[00:01:02] Hey, how you doing, guys? Great to be on my couple of legends and yourself, mate. Thanks for having me. And yourself. I truly appreciate that one. And of course, talking about the legends, he is back making his second week appearance in a row. Also, I have never, ever, ever had this many people comment on a single appearance. He's back. The King of the Nord. It's Ingrid. Welcome back, my friend.
[00:01:27] Hello, hello. It's good to be back again. So it's nice to have Neil in the same podcast. So it's going to be cool, I think. Yeah, it's nice. It's two years Neil's been on the team, but it's also the first episode you guys do together. Yeah. Looking forward to that. Good. Because I do think Neil has some very different opinions than some of this show.
[00:01:49] So, tonight, we'll go back to an old-style podcast. We'll talk content. We'll talk about, well, some divisive opinions. And of course, we'll talk about a certain goalkeeper scoring thingy. John, let's start with that. What was going on with goalkeepers, mate? Well, there was a known, shall we call it, a bug in the game where you were able to take a free kick from really deep.
[00:02:15] So, like goalkeepers would take the free kick from inside their box and you could manually move your striker to the opposition goal line. And then you could take the shot and it would rocket in a lot of the time. Almost all of the time. I can see Neil grinning already. Neil, has this ever happened to you in the last couple of days? Happened once to me and the game missed. That was pretty funny.
[00:02:42] I still lost the game. Yeah, it's good that it's been patched. The bigger question is should it have been there in the first place? It's probably what I would be looking to look for. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Yngwie, do you think we run a post this morning on our socials asking, are we glorified beta testers or is this something that, well, actually, who could have thought about this happening?
[00:03:07] Well, it's kind of impressive that somebody found out that this was something that could work in game. So, well, they kind of, yeah, I think it caught everybody by surprise, the person that found it out. But I'm glad EA managed to patch it so quickly because going into the weekend league and people would be scoring those goals back and forth.
[00:03:30] I think that could be a very tiring and maybe demotivating thing to add to all the stress of champs as well. Yeah, Neil, you said you felt they were patching it a little bit too late, didn't you? I would suggest... It shouldn't be in the game. I should have changed my... Well, it shouldn't have been in the game. I mean, we've had a couple...
[00:03:54] We had the Rolfo incident a couple of years ago where you could flick the ball up and run at the goal with the ball between your legs. That was a couple of years ago, wasn't it? Yeah. You could go all the way back to FIFA 95, whereas if you made a tackle and went to chase the referee, the referee would chase you for the rest of the game and you could just keep running from the referee and the game would never end. So we've had these issues before. It's difficult, isn't it?
[00:04:21] Plenty of people test this game, play the game for £100. I agree with that, Neil. Sorry, but how do you test for that? How do you... Like you said, kudos to somebody finding it. These guys get paid for that, don't they? Who's taking a goal kick and positioning the striker on the... It's almost something that's been discovered by, I would say, luck. And then the bad thing of social media is here's the new meta, here's a bug, here's a way to score goals.
[00:04:51] And the community is really bad at promoting the wrong things to do. Is it not people's jobs to test everything going and does these things? However, it's been passed really quick. I mean, let's give you a bit of credit. What I said in the chat, tongue-in-cheek, was that if it was a store pack issue or if it was champs unintended divorce, it would have been fixed in 45 minutes to an hour. Neil's talking with his microphone muted because the door... No, it's because his throat's gone. I'm so sorry.
[00:05:20] But yes, what I was saying there was that... Yes, before it was interrupted by the door. Sorry, guys. Yes, I think this could have been patched a bit quicker. But it's being patched quite quick. They've managed to fix it and that's a good thing. Was this an actual patch or was it an update? Like a... Live update, I think. It's a live patch, yeah. Yeah, live update. So live updates can be pushed rather fast. Well, the thing is, I have worked a couple of summers as a game tester, right?
[00:05:49] And the thing we... Like the first round of testing was always just fumble around and see what happens. Second round of testing was, hey, we've got a list with 1500 things that are broken. Try to see if you can break it still. And basically go through the list. This could be one of those things that could have been in the game for years and nobody found out so far, I think. And the way they fixed it was so fast that it was actually like, uh-oh, we see it. We can replicate it. Let's try it. I think I saw...
[00:06:19] We asked on socials and we had a lot of responses saying, well, it's a 100 pound game. Shouldn't be any bugs in it. I think bugs are inherent to software. Where we have had 100,000 euro cars break down because of software perk, right? I think price on the software doesn't mean it doesn't be perked. And I think there's bigger mistakes in this game going on than this one. This was, of course, a very annoying one, but it got fixed pretty fast.
[00:06:48] I think it's much more annoying that the referee somehow still has the same color kit as I always do. And there's a couple more of those examples which they aren't fixing yet. Yeah. Like the pitch lines and the ball color bug. And so much as I struggle a lot to see the ball with the combination pitch lines and everything, and I get a headache. So, and we reported that, I think, probably early this year on 26.
[00:07:20] And yeah, it didn't patch it all the way through 26. So we were kind of, okay, they'll fix it for 27. And now we are still having the same bug. The thing I think we've got a color blind mode, mate. You should use that, they say. That's horrible. That's even more pain for my brain to have those colors. The pitch looks strange.
[00:07:44] I know some of the pros were using that in the online pro ladder tournament type thing, you know, where they need to be in the top 500 and so on. And you're watching it and it's like, oh my God, this is hideous to watch. Absolutely. Right. But the fact they had to do that is quite poor. Yeah, they have to do it because it's just so annoying. Like I, when I use a black kit, somehow the referee always have a black kit.
[00:08:12] If I use a purple kit, the referee suddenly is wearing purple. So that, I think that on its own is very annoying. Also, if you don't, I always choose my opponent's kit because I don't want to have any kid clashes. But I can, like there's professional matches where you can't do that, where everyone just has their own kits, right? You shouldn't have to. You see what it's true. You shouldn't have to. I mean, I agree. Don't get me wrong, right?
[00:08:41] But it's bloody annoying. And I can understand why pros don't take the risk of having one of those weird visual bugs. So that's why they choose to play in colorblind mode. But I think it says enough that if pros are playing this game in colorblind mode, that there's something wrong. So coming back to the goalkeeper thingy book, I think it was discovered by luck.
[00:09:09] Like John said, I do feel that they fixed it in time. I'm so glad they fixed it before foot champs though, because that would be a criminal weekend. Yeah, as Neil said, that would be just a nightmare. The Rolfo incident happened during foot champs, if I remember. It happened on a Friday night, didn't it? And they had to act really swiftly that weekend to fix that. Just look stupid. The good thing is they can act swiftly. So they can do it.
[00:09:39] When they win, that's a positive. Yeah, but it would be nice if they could fix the pitch lines and football quickly as well. I can't play my Saints home kit or the referee always plays in purple when it's like it's too close to the blue. Do you think, John? Or anyone else? Do you think EA can fix my rush teammates getting a brain? Nope. Nope.
[00:10:03] You have to kind of bring three friends to make sure that it's going to be an okay experience. It can be fun as well. Or do what I do. Don't play it. Yeah, I don't play it. I'm not bothering. I don't like it. I don't think it's fun. It can probably be fun at a party. Yeah, but you can't play it in a party. I think that's the most frustrating part. You can't just get, like we've been on events and we're like, oh, you know what would be really fun?
[00:10:31] To get a fourth versus four rush tournament or something going. You can't do that. You can only play it in foot and only join solo. I think it's part of the fun, personally. Honestly. No. Honestly. It's so frustrating. Somebody kicks off and two people don't move. They go up the park and score. And then you kick off again. Two people don't move. They go up the park and score. And you're thinking, I am just wasting my time here.
[00:10:59] And my blood is starting to boil. Still a better experience than most of my rivals games, to be fair. Come on. But the rush thing starts with not selecting your teammates or not selecting the required players to get the bonuses. That's just when you disconnect. And it's like, oh. Yeah. And some start scoring own goals and things and moving the goalkeeper. Oh, no. No. It's not worth it. I've got to do a little bit more here.
[00:11:29] Because Neil says just disconnect. The fact you have to disconnect to get out of the mode. Yeah. That's also. That's even bonkers, though. Yeah. Okay. Connect. No. I think that's. There's two things going on. Whenever I play mode, like the rush mode, I do think my opponent. They look like, you know, those like four Navy SEALs.
[00:11:54] Somehow my opponents are always there with the four of them just perfectly aligned and like they practice together for weeks. They probably play together the ones you're facing. Then I look at my teammates and one is actually losing his ability to write his own name while actually trying to log in, I think. And the other two are just like gone. They're just pushing the controllers up. And they're just like, well, we're on the sideline. Or they get blue cards. Like, okay, I got two minutes break.
[00:12:22] But didn't EA kind of try to fix the way from. From keypad. Last year. They did. Yeah. But if they ran up to the line, it was like a certain amount of seconds and they just got disconnected. And then you got a computer player. That was last year. That doesn't happen now, does it? I can't remember. Remember, I've seen people play and say, oh, this guy is just standing on the sideline and not doing moving for like half a minute, a minute.
[00:12:53] Same as the community for everything else. We'll find a way. Someone just turn up to make other people really angry and see how far they get. They won the rewards without playing the game is what it is. That's the problem, isn't it? So going back to your point, John, no, they don't have any brains. Oh, but there's no kid clashes though. So there's that. That's a positive thing. Epic cloud. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
[00:13:22] Neil, talk about clouds. How was your reconfort? Frustrating today and yesterday. It's been really good though. It's been okay. As I said in the bonus pod during the week for the Patreon listeners, if they were listening, then we'd be sick of listening to me twice in one week. Best show ever, I've been told. Well, by you, but still. Just to add to your best day ever, that was only reason. It was okay. I sort of got to grips with defending.
[00:13:49] I'm finding it to be mostly a mentality thing. I've really got to be switched on to play rivals. If I'm going on half-baked, then I'm no use to them. I start doing my usual habits and just get cooked. Today, I had to switch the game off. It was to a point where partly me just lying across the couch on a Friday afternoon, but partly because it was a Friday thing, I don't know.
[00:14:16] Passing awful, going nowhere near any players that I'm passing it to. Forget about any through ball, going where you want it to go. Missing tackles. Tackles not registering. And I just had enough, so I switched it off. I think the content as well. We discussed this during the week. Kind of try and relate to the power curve. This might be an opinion of my own only. I think here in danger.
[00:14:45] We're going to be losing players quicker than normal if they keep the slow power curve going the way it's going. Because I'm religiously day-in, day-out FIFA player. I'm bored currently. I'm bored of the game with nothing happening. They need to do something. Well, you do have a pretty good team, though. It's a good team, yeah. But where do you go? Where do you go with it? Oh, elite division, maybe? I'm not good enough to get to elite division.
[00:15:14] This is the problem that we've got, though, right? We all say the power curve is too fast for years, right? And it sort of is. Because the top, top players are very rare. They are in packs, barely, right? So there is ways to potentially grow your team. But nobody's really getting it that way. But I know where you're coming from, Neil, right? But there is a bit that says if we just steamroll and it's a new player every couple of days, every couple of weeks.
[00:15:45] I don't know. I actually quit. It sounds controversial or contradictory, actually. I quite like the slow power curve. I am also moaning that, like, the 80-rated SBC Team of the Week only delivers 80-rated. You know, everybody here only gets 80-rated. Everybody in the Discord only gets 80-rated, right? Except John. Except John, because he's kind of on cloud. Like a Cheshire cat. But I would say most, right,
[00:16:15] but there's nothing wrong with looking at your team and going, that's a really good team. My team isn't actually that bad a team. Got a little bit of coins in the bank. Just plodding along. And while I would like a new card to get my team improved, the problem is that my team's not falling behind. So I think there's a balance. It's not even about making my team better. It's about being able to do marquee matchups on the Thursday night, the most basic of SBCs that you should be able to do.
[00:16:43] There's something, Wimby in the Discord, rightly pointed out that there's no Electrum packs kicking about anymore. There's no player cards kicking about. I've got no silvers, no bronzes in my club, because you can't pack them. They're not available, unless you go and buy silver packs or bronze packs. Vivals Awards, I had a total of seven players, is what I got this week. I need it to be more.
[00:17:10] I'd much rather get 20 bronzes and 20 silvers and get seven golds at this stage. But they do give you money now. The coins are easier to get, and I think therefore you can go buy those silvers and bronzes. I'm not buying players from marquee matchups, mate, to get a small gold pack. No, the packs are awful. Exactly. Maybe one good pack once a month. And then all it takes is 10 minutes at 10 past 6 to see what teams are in it, and then all the cards are going up in price.
[00:17:38] You're buying a bronze player for 3,000 coins and stuff. Just to complete it, it's not good. Yeah, and the gallery thing has pushed prices up on those bronze and silver players as well. That's also because people aren't opening bronze packs. Like you said, you don't want to go and do that, and therefore we're not getting bronzes and silvers and rewards. But I would say in previous games, when you did get a pack and you pulled four bronzes, you were like, what the f***? No, you didn't.
[00:18:08] I kept them from marquee matchups. Yeah. How many bronzes do you need from marquee matchups, to be fair? Bronzes and silvers you need for the first two squads. Yeah, I'm not chucking a lot of the golds in for them. Well, I can't chuck a lot of the golds in because I've not got a lot of the golds to chuck in. That's good you've spent all your money on other things. You're putting better cards in the SBCs than what you're getting back probably. Exactly. It's counterproductive. That's true. One of the SBCs, for example, says minimum three silvers.
[00:18:37] Some of it's minimum bronze, but two golds, two silvers. Minimum silver team, you know, two golds. But realistically, you can do it with 11 golds. But some of them, you must put silvers in. Yeah, yeah. And that's the problem. I'm not so much moaning about the work of needs to be faster. I'm just moaning that we need to be given more to do things in the game. Yeah, same with evolutions. I want to do evolutions, but I don't want to play like 17 matches
[00:19:05] and the card won't make my team. Barely, if I'm lucky, might make my bench. Yeah. I mean, there was a center mid evo that came out Wednesday night, Thursday night. Yeah. And it takes an 81 rated card to an 85 rated, but they simply do not have 85 rated stats in any way, shape or form. So why do it? Yeah, and you'll be locked out of evolutions probably till New Year's or something. Yes, that's a definite.
[00:19:34] So like I could have evoed a gold that I had, a Saints evoed gold already. I could have evoed them up to 85. But like you said, Neil, I looked at the stats and basically went, I'm not doing that because this guy's locked out for ages. So I'm evoing another bronze to 74. And it's like, well, that's not helping me get any of those players into my team or even on my bench. My evo team is just sitting there for the odd squad battle or the odd rush torture. Yeah.
[00:20:03] So I think evos is. But if you look at this, I know I think you mentioned on the bonus pod, you weren't doing it, Neil. But the future stars evo, that takes, is it 85 if you were going to finish that today? It'll be 85 rated. That's competitive. That's actually a competitive evo. Yeah, but the last step on the one evo that came out today is like plus one or plus two max for shooting. And it's like, well,
[00:20:32] if people started doing the players before they saw the last step today, I think many would regret the path that they've taken because if they had waited, they could have done it a little bit differently and got much better stats on the same player, which is annoying. I've only seen one player get into it, which is another problem with the community, isn't it? With you? The bone mouse striker is the only player I've seen in it. El Kruppi Jr.? I've never seen
[00:21:02] another player in it. It's the only player I've seen that's been evil. I've seen a few. I know a guy that's done a really good, quite good Walsall player because he's a Walsall fan, which I find, that's cool. But that's what I want to do. I want to take players from the team I support in Norway to kind of put those silver and bronzes up to close to be able to start for my team. That would be really fun because then you could use a different type of players and people would see different teams not the same kind of,
[00:21:32] yeah, you know, Kika, etc., blah, blah, blah. So, I'm evil and a guy called Taylor Steven from St. Johnston, right? The downside for me is while he's going to look really good, 87 pace, 81 shooting, 86 passing, 82 dribbling, so on, he doesn't actually play my team because he only plays striker or right mid, right back. I play three cams, one striker. He doesn't get my striker role and he can't play a cam. He's defending
[00:22:01] even though he can play right back. It's 24, so he's not going right back. So, while I'm evil-ing him and he's going to look fantastic in this purple colour, he'll sit on my bench simply because he's a Johnston player, but the criteria is he does not get into my team, which is crazy. The only evil team I've played so far this cycle is a Man United evil team. I've not played any other evil teams yet. I've needed to come out of any. And remember last year how many teams you would face that had loads of evil, of players that wasn't
[00:22:30] a typical promo type of cards in them either and I had really lots of fun matches seeing, oh, that was a cool evil, maybe I should look at that player and try. He looks really good. I didn't know he kind of existed. I've never seen the name before, but that's a cool card. I've had so much more fun than face the top well-known same players. I genuinely don't think they know what to do with them, is my thought on it. I don't think they know what to do with evos. I think they were
[00:23:00] too strong last year certainly and I don't think they know how to curve it down. Yeah, they were too strong, but at least we had fun. I think the ones that liked to do the evolution had lots of fun using their cards and didn't have to chase the promo packs because they could just do an evil player and you were good to go. That's against what EA wanted, wasn't it? They don't want that. I know that they wanted to tone it down but they could have toned it down. It's not toning it down. They want you to go to the store.
[00:23:30] They cut off the legs now of the evolution. They've always said that the top evolution players that you've got now should always be, I think, I can't remember the exact word and it was either on bar or just below. in line with the power cards. Not one player is in line with the perk off. Well, isn't the biggest issue guys that if you look at the whole stage or how this game is built, every player has a rating and the rating basically
[00:24:00] means nothing except how big the chances are you can pack one of these guys. And the higher rating basically means the lower chance you have to pack him. No, it's a bigger chance that you pack a rotary than you pack, for example, Fernand Mendy or... All right. Okay, if that's not a thing, then here's my solution to fix food. Okay. Thank you for helping me there. To fix food, basically do it like this. Every season, we have a limit on rating.
[00:24:30] So that means season one is currently now the highest rated player is an 84 rated player. Fine. We have an Mbappe 84, we got everyone in 84. Fine. Next season, we go to 87, whatever. And then you can just put all the EVOs. Hey, our power curve is at 84 for everyone. That means these are the max stats on everyone. If you want to change some absolute stars, you give them an extra playstyle, for example, right, to tune it that way to make it more efficient. And then next season, we do it
[00:24:59] like top the rating level again. Then you say, okay, you know, all the EVOs for season one, maximum 84 rated. There you go. Just to clarify, so you're saying that a 91 rated Mbappe's taken down, let me get my maths right here, 8, 8, 7? Sure. 8, does that mean you take down an 80 rated down to 72? No, no, everybody could be maximum 84, but Mbappe will have
[00:25:28] more pace, more passing, more shooting, but he'll be capped to 84. And therefore, when the next season comes out, he can go to 86. Now, your Duff Evo can go to 86, but he's placed Ls and his stats won't be as good as Mbappe. But I know where John's coming from, but they're never going to do that because it's always carrot on a stick. Yes, but if you do it that way, every season you have something to do because you want to get your players up there. Evolution is actually fixed because you know where you're going to plus you can use them next
[00:25:58] season. And the biggest issue with the game currently is the fact they can't manage the power curve correctly. That's fixed as well by that. And every season, everyone will start basically from scratch with what they built or lasted up next season. I think then you get a promo card, you give those promo cards to 84 rated or whatever and add play styles to them to make them more enticing or change stats around on those cards, totally fine.
[00:26:29] that way. If you want to have a St. Johnston Evolution team and be competitive, be my guest. If you want to play your Real Madrid squad, be my guest. Hey, everyone's complaining we have the same players in every single team. I'm sure Homer wouldn't mind me bringing his name into this. If he does, I apologise in advance. But say somebody like Homer, for instance, packs a newsman Dembele in week two of the game, shouldn't he be allowed to enjoy that
[00:26:59] Usman Dembele? Dembele has two play styles. He's still better than any other card, 84. Should not be allowed to enjoy him for what he is, one of the top top players in the game. Yeah, but he can have better stats than an 84 rated card. He can have like 90 pace, 90 shooting, 85. So we're just talking about the final rating here, yeah. Yeah, but the stars will be stars still, but the other players would be easier kind of to keep around the same It's a great idea, but let's be honest, everybody wants
[00:27:29] to sit right now and pull a 91 Hulet or an Mbappe. It's tradable even better because you can sell it and you've got coins for the whole game. And this is the problem. Your idea sounds great, John, but a lot of people won't want that. A lot of people want the other one where you can pull all the greatest cards now. You can go and get Johan Cruyff at 90 rated and you can get Mbappe at 91 rated and you can pull a Dembele and you can sell them for 3 million coins. And those people are
[00:27:58] happy and everybody else is sitting here with teams going, nothing changes, aren't happy. And I think that's the problem. There's no quick fix for EA. No, but you get everyone to play. You get everyone to have something to grind for. You get everyone, including all the big pack buyers, to still gather packs because we want the gallery filled, which is something now is really off the charts. But when you cap the rating and you make the power curve measurable, there's actually a way to do it. And we fix
[00:28:28] all the evolutions problems, we'll fix all the SPC problems, we'll fix the promo problems, and, this is even better, we'll put the skill gap back into where it belongs instead of only having to use method players. So we have a diverse team stuff as well. By the way, you can even get those maximum top players, you can keep like, I don't care, take the top 50 players and give them still the 91 rate. But just say in season 1, you can only use one in your team. Season 2, you can use two in your team. I'm fine.
[00:28:58] When we go into season 5, everyone will be 89, fine, use 11 of them, I don't care. But that way you can manage the power curve as if you were a EA, you can manage it. Everyone knows what they're getting into. An 80 rated plus team of the week won't actually be much of an issue because it's on par with the power curve. And it's very much controllable because hey, here's team of the year. We got 20 new players with a ridiculously high rated that you actually want to get and there's
[00:29:28] nothing comparable on the game. I'm sure there's a lot of packs anyways. The They're never going to get rid of it. No, but that way you can manage everything, make anything valuable. Also, all rewards will be valuable. Yeah. Rush, 12 battles, it doesn't matter. You want something to cut with your head. And everybody knows where you go, what the power curve is. So like you said, 84 max season 1, 86 max season 2, 88 max season 3.
[00:29:58] Actually, it gives you where you will be at any time. And if you have to, out health, holidays, and you miss a bit of a season, it doesn't matter because you know you'll catch up really quickly. You're not really falling behind. Yeah, without spending lots of lots of money. Yeah, but you could still spend money to catch up. Yeah, because you know what you're getting. So I'm not saying I'm going to fix everything for you, but here's an idea. Let me know. Put it on the screen. Please call me. I'm available.
[00:30:28] I don't want to be that guy, but Jamie, if you're watching this, this is how economy works. So I'm putting it out there. I am, of course, very much joking there, but I think everything we discussed up until this show, this season, has been about either cards not being strong enough, some cards being too strong, everyone using the same team, and we're always talking about how women players are probably good, right? I think it's all fixable by that same thing. Cap the power curve.
[00:30:58] Let the power creep creep in, like let it creep in over a couple of seasons. You have seasons in this game, which means nothing more that we want to sell you season passes. But if that has more meaning to it, that actually means that your players will be, like, if you play it, I don't know, let's go into Diablo game, whatever. If you go in Diablo, every season is about three months, FIFA seasons, FC seasons would be shorter, but after three months, okay, well done, job complete, you maxed out your character, you did everything you've done, but hey,
[00:31:28] now you can't use the character more, you gotta start again, but now you gotta start again, and we got new talents, new levels, whatever, and everyone starts new and nobody complains about it because they had their end game fun and now they start again and everyone's on the same level again. As long as everyone's on the same level and you know what you're getting into, you can make this game, I think, much more fair, but to be fair to EA, I think you can make a lot more money with it as well because people will know that rewards will be good, people will know what they can get from packs and suddenly
[00:31:58] an 84 rated card will be joyful for people. That's the end of my rant though. I want to talk a little bit about the promotion in V because we had a lot of comments last week, people saying Invy's back, the king of content is back, but we didn't talk content at all. So you can take it away. Two weeks of content, we have the future stars now. You guys took it out, what do you think of this promotion?
[00:32:28] Except that these cards look excellent design-wise. Well, the cards are of course nice, but I'm not a fan of the upgrades that they have. You have to wait until February before they will get upgraded and then we'll have lots of cards that's going to be much much better and these cards are going to kind of be behind the curve. If only they could manage the power curve somehow. Yeah, but for example, Kobe Manu,
[00:32:57] a Man United player, good player, but future star. He's been in the Man United team for how many years now? And I would say he's considered a star and has been for a few years. And there's a lot of those players that have been in well, on the stage of the world in Champions League, playing World Cup and stuff. And I don't think they should fit a promo like this. I would rather have some other younger player in lower leagues, for example,
[00:33:27] that are highly rated. They don't sell parts? Well, if the cards are good enough and they will work well in the game. they've tried that before, Evie. And I would say that it comes down to your ultimate team. Unless that player is, I'm just going to throw it out, a Norway player, Rangers player, St. Johnston player, Finnaud player. Outside of those clubs, nobody wants them. Everybody wants the stars. Everybody wants an Mbappe and
[00:33:57] Zidane. Kobe at the minute, simply because he's super high-rated and got a meta score and really good play styles and really good stats. People just want the best players. And again, you could say that could be a woman player or Kobe Mienu. And that's all people want. They just want the best of the best apart from the niche where I want St. Johnston players. I can't even get the St. Johnston left-back in the game. By the way, EA, could you fix that please? But it's that sort of thing. So I think, yeah. Take
[00:34:27] Mienu as an example. Evie's right. They could have used the centre back heaven potentially or I'm not quite sure. Jack Fletcher. Somebody who's up and coming at Man United. There is always one kind of Mienu. Mienu has been there for four years now. He's not a future star. I'm glad they've moved future stars back to an earlier promo instead of a later on promo.
[00:34:56] I think there's some really cool players in this promo. I think there's cooler players in this team than team one, certainly. I don't know if you guys agree with that. But also in team one we have Miles Lewis Skelly and Hall from Newcastle and we need to think why not have Max Downing or whatever his name is. I'd imagine he'd sell more packs than Miles loose Skelly I would say. And we have Vicky Lopez. I'm pretty sure they could have had one of
[00:35:43] in that's what they're putting Vicky Lopez in the promo because they're trying to promote the player as such but they've seen that they've found a player that's as
[00:36:15] anything I used to like it before because earlier years there were players we hadn't seen that much in packs before or knew much about and they were very good in the game when you got them and they were a few surprises which I thought was really fun to see a young player being up there and could be very usable in game as well and could use them for months until almost yeah it was
[00:36:45] much wasn't it yeah but you're saying a manu for 4 million or 5 million isn't worth it I've never liked my new in game because it doesn't work for me same with Rayan he doesn't work with my
[00:37:16] even though they're high rated and I'm not sure that they are that meta either yeah I think the rarity of some of these cards is driving the price up absolutely I know something 5 5 play styles has got 4 base play styles and 1 pound pass I think it is 4 5 play styles 4 million pound coin 4 million card this sounds very expensive you know what doesn't sound too expensive though
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[00:38:45] 1100 shows due to you Neil you look very annoyed by me go ahead man I'm just annoyed by not packing anything and the SPCs I feel are like there are some would be fun to do but no I don't have the cars no I don't want to spend coins buying the cars because I know that they're not going to be good enough and these players for future stars they're lacking weak skill moves
[00:39:15] play styles are not that good late upgrades and same with the player of the month it's a crazy price as well so it's like that's that's all the power curve that's all about keeping it within the power curve it has to be a bit we're still really early in the game I don't know
[00:39:58] I want to that guy but we have a hero SBC which is about five times more expensive as the hero SBC used to be two years ago when we just did I had a full hero team by now maybe that was a little bit too much but
[00:40:28] I I don't get 86 rated one that's better free in the season pass I'm going to take one out of John's book here the problem is EA don't get to pick the player of the month and the problem is they picked Ferran Taurus for the ladder and therefore they obviously wouldn't have picked if they had any control and it just happens to
[00:40:59] but they could have made the player of the month special I mean if they gave him blue hair I would even consider it but they could change the that they could give them more unique play styles for
[00:41:29] a league I don't want to be that guy but where is the feanor player yeah they have the card rarity in
[00:41:59] cards and I'm still annoyed by all the leagues by the way but that's another show I think so yeah I'm hopeful for next week's promo if they can make it
[00:42:29] cards so I just want fun cards that I want to try it's like I still have fun memories of that scream busquets and scream fellahini many years ago well I did it was really fun there were so many cool cards it was a unique thing it was new it
[00:42:59] you're not talking about footmess already come on now well footmess isn't a thing anymore mate just talking about leaks I genuinely think the majority of the community would like to get rid of leaks I
[00:43:29] be getting it from someone inside EA what's that thing no such thing as bad press well that's two things with leaks though I
[00:43:59] know the sites need to have it earlier as well and of course there's designs I mean we designed a thumbnail before we make a show I'm pretty sure they make the design of cards before they release the cards as well
[00:44:29] he probably he 300k and I imagine they welcome down but he plays left back c but centre back cdm looks pretty decent he's the kind of player I would pick out with this that looks pretty good I quite fancy him no I
[00:44:59] but I don't think the value of these cards are like exactly yeah maybe the result guy the German striker he's 100k so I can get behind that one right yeah because that could if he's of course people are going to say he doesn't have four star skill moves but the rest of the stats looks quite well rounded and would be a fun card he actually has four star skill moves doesn't have four star weak foot 87
[00:45:28] physical as well so I would go for Konyinga than earlier with 10,000 more bring 92 pace and 87 shooting also 3 stars I think it's a fine promo I think but if you pack these cards it's fine but I buying Manu for 4 million to 5 million go play Rush I think that's where you belong but I
[00:45:58] with this I don't mind the promos but if we could at least maybe pack one of the lowest rated ones but we don't see any of them I it's okay to keep the power curve down but please let people see these cards in packs without having to spend thousands of euros on
[00:46:28] packs in the store to be able to pack them it's like it kills a lot of the fun because people get it's the man city Japanese woman that's the one I think I've hit her
[00:46:58] three or four times Gabrielle a couple of times but yeah yeah it's tiresome ain't it it's tiresome yeah it is I'm tired as well though so I'm going to leave it here I'm going to see you all next week drop us comment follow our shows I think that's very important give us a five to review on Spotify and Apple podcast and of course drop a comment ask us anything so we can get back to you but for now that leaves us