626: Bug Hunting & Weekend League Begins

[00:00:01] Hello, FUTYs! Welcome along to your latest dose of FUTPLE Ultimate Team podcasting goodness

[00:00:08] we are FUTIN REVIEW. Powered by FUTCOTION.com, it is Tuesday the first of October as we sit

[00:00:15] in record. It's about lunchtime. UK time. My name is Dan Wemush, Oursner as Winby. I am

[00:00:20] joined. As always for the Tuesday club by my name, I'm a man Shack Attack and the Scout

[00:00:25] Nathan Downs. We've got loads getting to you on today's show. We're going to be talking about our

[00:00:28] first weekend league. And wow, the stakes are high for this one. We're going to be talking of

[00:00:33] course about bugs that continue to blight the FC 25x spirit. And we've got a very large male

[00:00:40] sack today to get through with plenty of questions ranging from transferred road to the knockout

[00:00:46] players to how we've been getting on in playoffs. Our general thoughts on the game and of course

[00:00:51] the future of a rush as well. So let's get into it. Gentlemen, how are we? How has your

[00:00:58] week been? Been really good from a FIFA point of view. It's been quite interesting. I think

[00:01:02] I had been up up and down everywhere with FIFA and well here at C25 and as of right now I just

[00:01:10] open my rewards for on ramp champs qualifying and got absolutely nothing so I'm on the down with

[00:01:16] our lead small bit of a negative nanny today. We will bear that in mind. But from a negative

[00:01:21] nanny to the man who sits on the fence more than anybody else Nathan Downs, how are you?

[00:01:26] All right it's quite uncomfortable sitting here on this chair with all these swanners and my back

[00:01:30] saves but no it's been there's actually been quite a good week. I listened to my own advice

[00:01:33] that said on the podcast week. I've kind of started to home down a formation. I'm starting to enjoy

[00:01:38] the game a bit more. I'm starting to feel like I'm getting a bit better again so that's always a

[00:01:42] good feeling. Add a nice little story in your on-pitch career. You're not FC 25,

[00:01:48] you're as well. Go on to build the baines. Yeah, my on-pitch career was on the bench and my coach

[00:01:54] but I was on the bench on Saturday and this Scotch got first round. We got when again

[00:01:59] so high on league team. So we've now been drawn to a league two team in the second round. So

[00:02:04] two rounds away from Celtic Orange is coming into the hat last year we managed to make the third round.

[00:02:08] We took about a thousand supporters down to Glasgow which was it's an incredible experience anyway

[00:02:13] so I was I was on the bench hoping not to get the call up and hopefully I'll be back in a dog out

[00:02:17] proper instead of on the on the bench on the next round. Okay, there's fabulous. There we go.

[00:02:26] Congratulations my friend. I hope to see your bronze card in packs soon. I don't think they

[00:02:32] have one low enough. It was a little bronze. I don't think we've got a black down.

[00:02:37] Looking forward to it. Look, cracking stuff. Let's get into the game. One of the big things

[00:02:42] of course that people want to talk about we're going to have to start on the negative note because

[00:02:44] it is something that is impacting still a lot of people. It's just the bugs. Now we spoke

[00:02:50] on last week's show that was released last Wednesday. Tuesdays we recorded it all the bugs

[00:02:55] and shack so many of them just haven't seemed to been patches. We've still got problems with the store

[00:03:00] and the menu. We've got issues with going into court games instantly crashing out. We've got the

[00:03:07] right stick. Sometimes not working in PlayStation so many bugs. I mean, do you feel that this,

[00:03:13] you know we talked and saying oh well hopefully we're ready for four release. Do you think this

[00:03:16] game is still ready? Are these acceptable bugs at this stage or is it still a little bit of

[00:03:21] taking the taking the Mickey for 80 of your English pounds or 50 or however many pay? Look, considering

[00:03:27] it's technically weak to for us and the bugs are still there. For example, you can't even go

[00:03:32] through a menu. You can't even go through a gameplay session without having your game crash

[00:03:36] out on you or just freeze. 10, 10, 11 days in that's just not acceptable for being the early

[00:03:42] release release fees and then you expect to polish fully finished product. It's not even finished.

[00:03:49] It's not, forget being polished. It's not even finished and I'm starting to get a little bit frustrated

[00:03:53] with trying to restart my game every time crashes and within the game as well I just feel like

[00:03:58] there's certain things that are not fully there yet if that makes sense in the sense. I think

[00:04:04] I'm noticing that there's sometimes blame movement is not consistent with what I'm trying

[00:04:07] to do sometimes in a certain game play it's just weird and this thing that Ian needs to address

[00:04:13] especially the menus are they really need to address that. Yeah, some made a reddit post about saying

[00:04:17] that you know the type of games that he wins and he points out that's so often it's because he's

[00:04:23] full well that an opponent hasn't aimed that way. So look there's certainly things on the game

[00:04:28] playfire and we're going to get into that but just talking about the menu fixes of course there

[00:04:32] is a patch update that has just been released for PC within the past few hours of us recording this

[00:04:38] and it links into what in v the Mr. V for database has had to say in our mail bag of course if you

[00:04:44] remember the discord you get access to the questions channel and priority for this very show although

[00:04:49] hands up I did forget the mail bag last week that is on me very bad damn very bad dad. Anyway

[00:04:55] in v says all these bugs in the game how long to see gameplay adjustments in a patch and how much

[00:05:00] adjustment you think you'll make they're coming patch now this week seems to just address the

[00:05:04] menu lag and the patch he's referring to I will read out the list because it's not very long

[00:05:08] adjust the following general audio and visual issues sometimes but an input's not being registered

[00:05:13] when performing access to the menus control a compatibility issues when using steam input

[00:05:18] and stability issues occasionally happening in all online mode I love that phrase stability issues

[00:05:24] just such a catch-all catch-all thing and as pertains to ultimate teams specifically they've said

[00:05:31] we've adjusted the following issue stability issue when accessing squad battles I can't actually

[00:05:35] say that's when I've encountered before um adjust instances of stability issues while in this store

[00:05:41] unintended UI elements sometimes displaying on the screen and adjusted the message that displays

[00:05:46] when confirming to start an evolution so now a bit of a nothing burger in terms of that patch

[00:05:52] so far very much does feel like hot fix is rather than something that's deserving title update too

[00:05:57] yeah absolutely and on PC so I've had that patch this afternoon just now

[00:06:03] the only issue that I've had is it actually seems to have created a store issue for me I never had any

[00:06:08] issues with the store before but now when I opened some I think I had the 50 power shot rewards

[00:06:14] and there's another sort of reward that I had so open two packs and every time I hit

[00:06:18] I think it's excellent the controller it just kicks me out again completely instead of

[00:06:23] stopping in my tradable items for the juice so it's actually seems to have created an issue rather

[00:06:29] than solving it anything that was the only thing that I kind of experienced but it doesn't seem like

[00:06:33] it does seem like a hot patch it doesn't seem like it's addressed in some of the issues that

[00:06:37] I know we're gonna go and speak about later on so it's had almost a bit like a feel like they

[00:06:42] have to be seen to be doing something rather than thinking through what's the best use of our

[00:06:46] time and resource to put the best quality game out as we can right now but as pertains to English

[00:06:51] question then I think what is more important for you is it EA getting all these things on the

[00:06:55] menus and the actual main stability issues right as soon as possible or should they be lending

[00:07:00] more time to balancing out gameplay issues and features and you know that we're gonna talk about

[00:07:06] very shortly that you know are annoying people so far so may first thought as they have

[00:07:11] made the game stable to begin with I'm not against the making it stable because what's

[00:07:15] a point in having a perfect game if you play in really well and suddenly the game crashes

[00:07:18] and you kicked out so actually people learn how to play the game just now it's not

[00:07:22] perfect as we know but I think you need to be stable the game needs to run smoothly otherwise

[00:07:29] you're just gonna get this perfect product which you can actually play anyway I'd rather

[00:07:34] go on the stability issues and you know we none of us are programmers or coders these actual

[00:07:41] gameplay issues might be a bit deeper than we think so yes they shouldn't have released it on

[00:07:46] finished products but actually let us play the game anyway without Putin as out and because

[00:07:50] in that frustration then bring out a proper you know a proper major patch rather than trying to

[00:07:56] fix something that they can't do because of the server issue or the stability issues anyway

[00:07:59] well let's move on from actual quantifiable bugs too there's many things that the gameplay

[00:08:04] things things that you know people often throw around shack that word broken this is broken that

[00:08:09] is broken this is OP that is OP based on your experience now for playing this game for a couple of

[00:08:15] weeks is there anything that to you is firmly in that that is broken that is OP cap is only that

[00:08:22] you would firmly put in there I think there's slightly a difference between OP and broken

[00:08:26] whereas for example the speed boost that you get from holding L1 and then taking an exit using R2

[00:08:33] that's not really broken but it is OP it really works in certain occasions but there's a skill gap

[00:08:37] as well because it only works in certain it works well in certain angles in certain parts of the

[00:08:43] pitch but it's not broken I don't believe it's broken I think it works really well for certain

[00:08:47] players it doesn't really work as well with players that don't have the right place elsewhere

[00:08:51] same thing with the chip through past sometimes it works really well again I don't think it's broken

[00:08:56] I think it's OP because it works in certain situations it's very gives you such an advantage but

[00:09:01] there's a way to cut it off as well if you start reading the play if you notice when you play

[00:09:06] against someone this they said people that you can consistently do it and they have no idea how

[00:09:10] to stop it and they said people that just can't do it against them because they've read you

[00:09:13] and they will block that pass out so I don't mind that sort of balanced to be in the game but

[00:09:20] from overall game point of view I think the stability issues are probably what will actually make

[00:09:25] make a real difference because right now we don't necessarily know where the of these things are

[00:09:28] actually a whole lot of it broken we don't necessarily know we're just guessing and with a new

[00:09:33] patch things could change completely as well yeah anything bugging you game plays wise and they

[00:09:38] they mean we hear lots of people you know already calling out the five at the back

[00:09:42] meta that's emerged the OP nurse has mentioned of set pieces and things like yeah Shax Raising

[00:09:47] hand if you've been watching the viewers he's already moved to a five back straight on the rat express

[00:09:53] but what about you I mean what game play elements are you thinking I really want to see that in

[00:09:59] title update three to be honest it's not been too bad like I don't think I've ever had the same thing

[00:10:04] happened in two games in the room even with five at the back I don't actually think five in the back

[00:10:09] last year was mentally OP I think it's very effective now but there's still ways around it I think

[00:10:14] the way that you can you know you can put your wingers or your cams on inside forward type thing

[00:10:19] I think that actually makes almost a four on five at the back and usually as you see in fact

[00:10:23] actually at least got one galvan and full back so actually there's ways around it if you know how to

[00:10:28] explain to yourself excuse me just joking around goff check guys I was is he had a pair to explore

[00:10:35] everything you just told me no no I actually don't think there's I think too widely I think power

[00:10:40] shots in the right hands if you've got that power shot plus I think power shots are crazy like

[00:10:44] I was scoring some today which was literally like the guide cams in so I was like I'm just going to hit

[00:10:48] this and it was going to talk corner but that was with Rashford and Nunes that kind of the power

[00:10:53] shot plusers so you'd expect them to be decent and a lot of three balls like you've said

[00:10:57] they are effective and if you do switch off like you can go at damn much broken but actually I switched

[00:11:03] off and you know I didn't track my runner I didn't close the guy the the pass a down really well

[00:11:07] so at the moment I generally think it's quite a balanced game I think the biggest book for me is

[00:11:11] I don't have any pat look at the moment really compared to some of these teams that we're playing and

[00:11:15] you know I was saying to you guys I played a streamer in qualifiers and he had his team was mainly

[00:11:20] a goal team but it was just it was insane and as soon as you saw the team I thought on the twitch TV

[00:11:24] plus this team I was at almond in for a world that hurt here so that's my biggest bug bear at the

[00:11:29] moment but I think the gameplay wise actually I don't get a lot of the hate on it I don't

[00:11:33] know whether it's just my experience of people are just quite quick to quite quick to react and I think

[00:11:37] it's easier to get jump on board than negative it training and it is to actually know it's

[00:11:41] me rather than the program if we do something wrong we always blame something else.

[00:11:45] Well it's a good point to bring in foot grandpas feedback as well on in the discord and he says

[00:11:49] I always enjoy the pace of the game early on it makes it seem that you can play a proper football

[00:11:53] style do you think that the first patch will make the game feel more arcade as it normally does?

[00:11:58] I know this can be a knock-on effect at various changes but I really hope they keep the pace of

[00:12:02] game as it is. I think that's you know I tend to agree with football grandpas I haven't had too many

[00:12:08] problems with this game so far and kind of the style in the pace it's just been a learning curve

[00:12:12] shack and you think that maybe there is this case of people getting perhaps too quick to be frustrated

[00:12:17] because they're not just able to do exactly what they did three weeks ago with 99 rate players

[00:12:22] in FC 24. Definitely I think there's one thing that I picked up from one of the many

[00:12:27] random videos one of the things that actually was kind of true is some of the inputs for

[00:12:32] example if you look back it's not doesn't happen all the time it's not really consistent but sometimes

[00:12:36] a shooting mechanic takes a little bit longer than you expect it to actually take and that's I don't

[00:12:41] know if it's by design if it's the rating of the players that were playing with that this certain

[00:12:45] things that happened in the game that I can't really explain but otherwise I think from the from a game

[00:12:50] from the speed perspective I think it's it's one of those things as well as I said last weekend

[00:12:56] I had a boys night with a couple of mates and we played a lot of lot and a lot of just

[00:13:00] couch play using normal teams and we just couldn't play with the three star four star teams

[00:13:06] just didn't cut it but as soon as you start playing with the five star teams like a Madrid for

[00:13:10] example just comes to my mind it was everything was just flowing smoothly everything was happening

[00:13:15] automatically things were moving the way you expected so I have a feeling that the once we start

[00:13:20] getting better teams better cards better tactics we will start to understand how to how to play

[00:13:24] this game the weirds meant to be played yeah very much agree and look they're a little bug

[00:13:28] bears that I've got I think you know the amount of rebound goals just seems a bit too much at the

[00:13:33] moment like just go get it but then again is that just is there a skill gap between the goal

[00:13:38] keep emerging this year that we maybe haven't had for the past few years like I had that

[00:13:43] sunshine's the world tall card in for a few days and it was just like I wasn't saying anything

[00:13:49] but manimo noir in on a glove that saves everything so again it feels like it's really too early

[00:13:57] I mean look I've watched the the now famous annual or by annual by weekly inception ran and

[00:14:06] he does make some good points not and things about inconsistent gameplay and stuff like that

[00:14:10] you absolutely understand where he's coming from and all of the people that are complaining about

[00:14:14] things like facing constant five backs and the slowness and things like that I get it it's not

[00:14:20] great but I can answer you from person experience and I haven't bash the game enough in terms

[00:14:25] of playtime bashing rather than just bashing the quality of the game to be able to say right that you

[00:14:30] know I'm not walking to every single game and in like you know if you for 20 it was drag back drag

[00:14:35] drag back near post I'm not seeing that yet I'm not seeing the fee for 20 the Fc24 of

[00:14:41] cut back goal cut back goal cut back goal so to me the matter is still fully yet to emerge

[00:14:47] and I think as foot grand pass it's like it's kind of a great stage of the game to be in but

[00:14:52] our innocence will only last so long let's be fun I'm gonna kind of use the mailback

[00:14:58] into drama through different topics and I want to get to Adam's now because he says how you

[00:15:02] lads finding the game and how did everyone find qualify for weekend league I thought it was

[00:15:07] super tough based on the EA pros around it but think most of our people have been making it

[00:15:12] without too much bother to map people in the discord he says I'm enjoying it for the most part

[00:15:16] it was a frustrating aspect especially dodgy menus off the pitch on the pitch I think is pretty good

[00:15:21] that can be a little slow as some games tend to all out slugfest in the midfield but it is

[00:15:26] good fun and they let's uh I'm gonna I'm gonna start with you on this one I think we kind of

[00:15:37] play us right now how are you finding qualifying I'm tuneil up in qualifier so that's positive

[00:15:44] I just need one one which I'll probably bottle or crumble like a chocolate hob no but it's I've seen

[00:15:51] some people in our discord say they've gone through there's no god squad it's quite a breeze

[00:15:55] unfortunately I haven't found that I've had two god squad I think I've won five four and four three

[00:16:00] wanting it's like as early as twitch streamer so it's tough but what I am finding is that

[00:16:06] my team's now feeling a bit of balance I've got positions I want to improve on but actually

[00:16:12] a team feels relatively good I'm starting to learn the capabilities of the character that I've

[00:16:16] got just now and I think it's actually a lot easier than just ramming a team together to be honest

[00:16:22] so I was expecting it to be kind of like one win one loss one win one loss and then maybe the fifth

[00:16:27] game be a bit of a tiebreaker or more spot so far so good it's just I just know it's gonna go

[00:16:34] yeah my note as well that you've literally just played this just before we're recording so it's

[00:16:38] kind of middle of the day UK time so you've not perhaps got that more casual wider base on it is people

[00:16:44] usually pretty dedicated or good at the game if they've got that ability to play during the daytime

[00:16:48] shack is interesting because I had a lot of nerves going into playoffs I was like oh my god this

[00:16:55] is getting luck you know like Adam said I thought I was gonna be ready to have to qualify it's

[00:16:59] really intense and actually I got in there and it was almost like the light bulb went off shack of us

[00:17:05] is like it's just playoffs from last year nothing has changed it's just the amount of games you

[00:17:11] have and it wasn't very often going into last year's playoffs losing three out of my first five

[00:17:16] games so why would this be any different and in fact I went I got to 4 and no and then I ran into

[00:17:23] one of the god-scolds nice talks about a like a 2 million coin super squad and it was just

[00:17:27] outright just better than me so I had no problem with that and thankfully that came at the end

[00:17:31] of my run but yeah do you think maybe we've all got into our own heads that just because of it's

[00:17:35] a shorter space it's gonna be much harder. I think we all assume there was going to be much

[00:17:40] harder especially for the first week I genuinely can expect to qualify at all and I like you I was

[00:17:44] a bit nervous and apprehensive but I felt like I was in a really good form yesterday and I was playing

[00:17:50] really good I was playing really good FIFA and I thought I'll just jump into playoffs and I won the

[00:17:53] first game then I thought oh my god I'm doing matters will go for the second one one the second

[00:17:57] and then one the third and I was pretty impressed with myself that actually won all three back to

[00:18:01] back and I qualified and I think as you said I think we just we just had it in our heads that

[00:18:06] it was going to be the qualifying phase was going to be extremely hard but it wasn't as hard as

[00:18:10] I expected it to be so I hope it stays this way but again having said that though I did it on a

[00:18:15] Monday my time you did it on a Monday as well here time so it's a bit weird because if from next week

[00:18:21] onwards the patterns will change where you'll have the pros jumping in early on or maybe

[00:18:27] there might be waiting till the end of the week to jump in and qualify so it depends on on the

[00:18:32] luck of the draw because in the past you had margin for error you don't have that margin anymore

[00:18:35] so if you come across three really hard players you'd done for that hold round that's the hard part

[00:18:41] I think the big thing the big fear is well the moment is we're all quite careful with our coins

[00:18:45] we're not you know splashing out on on players per se I know that you've got something to say on

[00:18:50] later on and how to build your teams and stuff but when you go into some of these games it's evident

[00:18:54] that people aren't worried about losing coins they're putting everything into the team straight away

[00:18:59] and that's that was the big fear for me and it's still kind of is about anyone that'll come

[00:19:03] up in the last three games is that I've got you know I've got two decent players in my team but

[00:19:08] the rest of my band-gabbage star squad type players so that's the fear that you come up against these

[00:19:14] God squad's that could run over you and sometimes like we know at this stage of the game it

[00:19:17] isn't necessarily have to be a better player but a player by in the controls but some of these

[00:19:21] cards really make a heck of a difference oh yeah and I'm one of those people that just went out

[00:19:26] and spent you know I've been studying building up my coins I have about three quarters of a million

[00:19:31] of them and you know I just went out and splurged I bought a few new co-williums I bought

[00:19:40] too many for the midfield as well I went out and bought full foden and just kind of and I brought

[00:19:45] the lone Jude card that I had as well so effectively a 300,000 coin player as well and just found

[00:19:52] it so much easier because I had that extra level of skill and the teams I was coming up against were

[00:19:56] pretty much bang average start at teams yeah one at the end was very good but most of them maybe

[00:20:00] had one or two good players like you'd run is like one would have like a salar and stuff like that

[00:20:05] and no I've been lucky this week my pack luck has been pretty good um Pat's Shunman Sons in form

[00:20:11] who is by far the best pull I've had so far in this game got Shumal Moushiala as well so I've been lucky

[00:20:16] enough to have that kind of core of good players and like you know I can only pull my hands up

[00:20:21] and say my team was better than four out of my five opponents so that did give me an advantage

[00:20:26] but I was kind of feeling what you said Nathan I was going to run into God squad God squad and maybe

[00:20:31] we'd played this a few days earlier before full release it would have been that way so I think

[00:20:36] the motto here is if you're someone that sat on the fence and you're quite of anxious about it

[00:20:40] I think now is a time when lots of people are just going into it so this is as good as time as

[00:20:45] any to try and qualify because I think the really dedicated hardcore players have all qualified by now

[00:20:50] they've won a those rewards so it's a good time to try and get your dipi toe in the water and

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[00:22:05] it was exactly I'm completely going with what you're saying excellent good man and moving on to

[00:22:11] another question from Invy do you think Rush will die out quickly seems like many are just rubber

[00:22:17] banding to get season points these days unless you're playing with mates, Nathan have you found

[00:22:25] Rush I've I've really enjoyed it up until today I can't say there's many issues there's obviously

[00:22:29] the odds person that I'll not say what exactly what I think of them but they just refuse to

[00:22:34] passable and just try and skill move and shoot all the time every game I played this morning

[00:22:39] no had rubber banders and people that were just refusing to give up the ball so I I I set a stick with

[00:22:45] what we said last time I think Rush has a hell of a lot of potential so really good mode it's quite

[00:22:51] but I think unless they do something about rubber banding maybe say you need to have more than one

[00:22:56] input within X amount of time which I know would be a massive change to the code so that's not going

[00:23:00] to happen and if they bring in other objectives in our group chat I think shack actually you

[00:23:05] highly it's a crack in one where you know get X amount of a six amount of goals so that way people

[00:23:10] will not just rubber bands not just shoot themselves but they'll have to you know bring in more you know

[00:23:15] have a have a game rate and over eight gets you like double model it modifies or something like

[00:23:20] I think there's a lot of potential there because people love the modes but I am a bit feared

[00:23:24] that it might it might dial unless they tweak it and in the rewards actually are pretty

[00:23:29] nav like it's quite a lot of games you have to play and I don't know if it's just my pat look

[00:23:34] but the say 83 times two that you get the end we're just two guaranteed 83s in the last two weeks

[00:23:39] of it now so hopefully they can can boost a little bit the rewards not just the objectives as well

[00:23:45] yeah and I sorry shack we talked about this in last week's show didn't we kind of put it in the

[00:23:49] would you want to keep it more casual with easier rewards or do you want to make it really competitive

[00:23:53] I mean or where do you sit with rush now? I think it could be it doesn't have to be great rewards

[00:23:58] it needs to be some rewards for example you as Nate mentioned just have some more air assist

[00:24:04] some sort of skills and there's something that you actually tell you I think the rating is a really

[00:24:09] good really good example of how well built but they can do said in one of reading equates to something

[00:24:14] and then have something at the end maybe just a cosmetic earpillusion or even a gold pack or

[00:24:20] anything like that just in times we put it to the right thing and just to for everything to mean

[00:24:24] something because at the end of the day 70,000 rush points just take a while at the end of the

[00:24:28] day if you get 84 times two as the best that you can get which you get 284 rate of players this

[00:24:33] is going to die off and it's not fair and this one of point out as well one of the things I picked up

[00:24:38] from Nipent this video was a fact that if you're struggling in rush and you're playing drop-ins

[00:24:42] and you're struggling that people are not passing try and force the passes and make sure

[00:24:47] you're one of those people that just keeps on passing more often than not you will start noticing

[00:24:51] that your team mates will realize oh hang on maybe we can just pass it's just be kind initially

[00:24:56] and just hope for the best in that I've been adopting that and it has worked it has worked

[00:25:02] oh I just keep saying thanks every time somebody messes up and doesn't they don't pass or if

[00:25:06] they get tackled or if they shoot stupidly I just hit the thanks button all the time

[00:25:12] yeah that that's and sorry seems to be my my two go to's again I could only echo what

[00:25:18] you two say that I do think he's a little bit of a tweet to make it more incentivizing

[00:25:22] and let the rubber band I like they need to find some way of dealing with that because nothing's

[00:25:27] going to kill a mo quicker and I also just think the games are a little bit too long

[00:25:30] I think a lot of them are decided quite early on especially the random drop-ins

[00:25:35] more so if you're playing as a group of mates you know you're better than a bunch of

[00:25:39] randoms that you're playing and then you just feel like I've noticed a lot of people

[00:25:42] I don't have YouTube notices I've noticed people starting to get deliberate blue cards

[00:25:47] just to sit on this yeah just yeah somebody wasn't passing and we were getting hammered because

[00:25:53] this game yeah the rubber band had wasn't passed and so I just started snapping for

[00:25:56] a little bit of a time off because I was like I'm seeing my best but it does it causes

[00:26:00] it does cause like absolute frustration it's a shame because it's like it would say this

[00:26:05] got so much potential to go on and it could actually be one of the top modes that's not you

[00:26:09] know champs to get the ridiculous rewards but it could be something that we go to for a bit

[00:26:14] of a de-stress a bit of a laugh you know a bit of a chill yeah I'd love to see some sort of a

[00:26:19] clan system or something introduced but I think that's way above what yeah gonna want to do

[00:26:25] and what's gonna be financially rewarding for them but we we remain to be seeing like the

[00:26:30] in the last couple of days there's now an 88 rated max option in rush and of course this

[00:26:36] defenders are only one there was that a couple of days before that as well where you can only

[00:26:40] select defender so that it remains a good option to do evoes and things like that so again it's

[00:26:45] not totally dead but at the moment if they keep it the way it is then I kind of agree with

[00:26:51] in the that it's going to die out pretty quickly because as soon as we get to the stage where

[00:26:56] an 84 plus double is not actually that good and you know 84's are just because it does

[00:27:03] handle 84's 85's 86's more than anything else as soon as we get to the stage where that's just

[00:27:07] for the people and not gonna want to spend hours every week especially with the congestion that

[00:27:12] you've now got I mean we've seen a friendly cup in release this week so look at all the things

[00:27:16] you've got to play right now rush a friendly cup squad battles trying to win 15 game protocols

[00:27:22] we can leave playoffs and then we can leave itself they're not all gonna go into one so it'll

[00:27:28] be a case it will how do you give enough incentive to keep a mode like rush alive when at the

[00:27:33] moment every other single mode gets you more rewards for your game time so that will be interesting

[00:27:40] to see how they balance out and hopefully they can get the balance right and let's talk of

[00:27:45] then we'll circle back a little bit too weak and leave in the build up to it because it is the

[00:27:50] first week and league of the new game it starts on Friday now we don't know when it ends that remains

[00:27:56] a question will it go back to the traditional style we're at ends very early in the morning

[00:28:00] on Monday UK time or will it be the extended edition that we kind of saw from the sort of second

[00:28:06] half of FC 24 we're at ended on Tuesday or Wednesday so no information on that yet I know Invie

[00:28:12] there's posted a question to EA so hopefully in one of the daily shows we'll get an answer to

[00:28:17] if not I'm sure it'll be all over social media when it is confirmed but I mean Jen's what's your

[00:28:23] approach is weekend gonna be like when are you gonna put your teams together and what are your kind

[00:28:27] of aims shack I'll start with you I'm genuinely I don't think I have much time to play we can

[00:28:33] leak on Friday or Saturday I'm just actually going wheel watching on Saturday so I wouldn't have

[00:28:37] dying for week and week however my plan is to start playing Sunday, late Sunday so I'm going to be

[00:28:44] that's when I'll actually start playing and hope to smash out the 15 wins back to back

[00:28:49] within an hour or so I mean that's that's the dream I mean Nathan you're smiling like a

[00:28:56] Cheshire cat over there yeah I think 15 wins in an hour would be wonderful if you do that

[00:29:02] shack like we'll rename this whole podcast shack and review you're not I mean I've already pinned

[00:29:08] to our group chat just listen to shack where it comes to our try to get advice I'm hoping

[00:29:13] to put together my team on Thursday morning I think yeah right around sort of the right the

[00:29:18] rivals reward drop is a good time to buy it why will say to anybody in shack yet please correct me

[00:29:24] if I'm wrong here sell your team as quick if you can afford to get weekendly done on Friday

[00:29:30] please just sell your team as quickly as possible because with the absolute stacked nature of these

[00:29:36] rewards gold and to a lesser extent promo cards impacts are going to drop hard especially

[00:29:43] you know we've already seen the very starter cards sort of die off we're now going to see

[00:29:48] that kind of middle tier card start to die aren't we shack your likes of your iPhone's O Davies is

[00:29:54] your McKinney Oces your shoe and many is that kind of 10 to 30 k2 docker yet they're all going to drop

[00:30:00] like a stone aren't they come after the weekend definitely I think Friday 6pm onwards all these

[00:30:06] cards are just going to die are really really horrible dead so if you can get rid of them as soon

[00:30:11] as you can that's the safest option but at the end of the day it's all depends on when you're

[00:30:18] actually going to play the game when you're going to use your squad there's nothing wrong please one

[00:30:22] of the things I want advice anyone please don't get attached these cards they're just cards

[00:30:25] it doesn't have to be that exact same card get rid of them by them back as soon as you're ready

[00:30:30] to play just just do that just stop holding and holding these cards ever forever in a day

[00:30:36] yep very much green it's what I've been doing I sort of bought a few players for

[00:30:39] playoffs and our soldham because I don't need them again until at least Thursday afternoon

[00:30:43] as I've somehow managed to slug my way through 15 wins or 45 points in division 4 now

[00:30:51] naith you know we have this discussion early because you know you mentioned you're someone that's got

[00:30:55] tight time constraints my advice for anybody would be if you've got enough points to enter and you can

[00:31:01] only play five games just going play those five games because if you've got three players you'll get most

[00:31:06] points towards entry the next set of playoffs and Lord knows everyone's going to play enough

[00:31:10] rivals games get the points to enter the next playoffs I very much would encourage anybody to just

[00:31:15] play what if it is a short week and me naith I'd just say play what you can play because the

[00:31:20] packs even for sort of four five six wins are almost too good to turn down at this stage

[00:31:25] yeah so definite consideration for me depends when it ends because I'm off on Monday so I'll not

[00:31:31] be able to do Monday either so I think I'll try and qualify for this weekend league but I may

[00:31:35] say that this one helps have only got Friday but the schedule's far too tight as well so I

[00:31:41] will always want to do my available wins and stuff so I'll need to have a look when it's released

[00:31:46] if I do get chance to play satis open till Tuesday night I'll play it on Tuesday and there's

[00:31:51] probably a good chance that I'll try and buy it on Sunday night when people are sort of

[00:31:55] getting rid of the teams at last but again it all just depends on the really schedule for the

[00:32:05] two to make last week was the kind of grind and I just mentioned that the whole kind of balancing

[00:32:08] of the game modes I mean naith you convince that 45 points is the right way to go both you know

[00:32:15] with your of course we'd all love to see it only be 10 points but can you see why that 45 point

[00:32:21] limit is there or do you think it needs a tweak for the wider good. I think if they keep up the

[00:32:28] the current sort of schedule when you've got friendlies and squad battles and champs and qualities

[00:32:32] and rush as well I think it's too much. Even objectively even the better players will be saying

[00:32:38] it's too much. I said to write the start I could see them nerf in it about I think 15 is too much

[00:32:43] but I could I think 7 to be fair 7 you know I could do 7 on the third day morning after

[00:32:48] reset most of the time so from a competitive sort of objective standpoint I think because the

[00:32:54] roads are fairly good in the higher tiers I could see well I'd like to see it maybe be 10 wins

[00:32:58] 10 to 12 wins up equivalent just that little bit less but still you know for sure people to

[00:33:03] to play I think rivals could be could be good fun still and a good testing ground but I think 45

[00:33:08] points is that bit where it's it's too much if you want to do everything and we know follow and

[00:33:13] and if see is a big thing so I think that's something that you know you have in the past said

[00:33:19] they're trying to drive you know a bit more sort of mental health awareness type think

[00:33:23] they although we know the driving onto the store for points and stuff like they do have this

[00:33:28] facade where they are trying to improve mental health and they have said those other ways around it so

[00:33:32] I think favourone's mental health they need to lessen it a bit it may be a little bit easier you know

[00:33:39] at the moment everyone's really congested there's not many people probably above division

[00:33:42] for division three just now unless you are you know the top tier player so maybe people will find

[00:33:47] it a lot more satisfying once we've spread out but even then if if anyone gets into a

[00:33:52] division I can't imagine it being that straightforward to get 45 points and they'll eat

[00:33:56] division any time of the year let alone you know just now yeah I guess it's about balancing

[00:34:00] what your priorities are I mean looking at you know the slate of rewards that you do get from

[00:34:05] weekend league for the 15 games plus you know far as well as low as three as much as five

[00:34:12] games in playoff the argument is there that you don't really need to play that many rivals

[00:34:17] I mean check you know when I first started this game you kind of had that didn't you with

[00:34:21] rivals rewards because you're weak and league counted as your points in rivals so you would always just

[00:34:27] and if you played weak and league you would always just end up in what is it was it like rank two

[00:34:31] yeah rank three for rivals and it didn't seem to bother people as much then they couldn't get the

[00:34:35] very top tier rewards is it a case of again retraining our brains to say look if I end up you know

[00:34:42] I play six seven games squad battles eight ten games of rivals and get the lower kind of tier

[00:34:47] rewards from that and then a set of slate of rewards from weak and league plus any friendlies that

[00:34:52] that should I mean really steely that for most players that should be enough you shouldn't have

[00:34:57] to get every set of top rewards you know to be able to enjoy this game oh no glaciers

[00:35:02] prefaces whole conversation by the fact that rewards don't mean you're going to get something

[00:35:06] that's good it does it's just it doesn't mean you guarantee success yes you have a

[00:35:11] punter success but there doesn't mean anything because you have a DDSBC as well or an SPC that

[00:35:16] comes out every other day and the chance of packing something through that is equally good as

[00:35:20] to packing something that it wants so if you're not getting rewards it doesn't it's not the end of

[00:35:25] the world and having said that this two ways to do it one is you choose one stream and you swim

[00:35:30] done that stream and you play champs or you just play rivals or you play Russian friendlies or whatever

[00:35:35] that is that you can actually ask what battles choose one lane if you don't have your time as a

[00:35:39] constraint or as you said just choose best best of all worlds just a little bit of everything and

[00:35:45] hope for the best that's that's probably another way to do it as well I don't think I don't

[00:35:49] think unlike last year I don't necessarily think we can access every single thing in the game

[00:35:54] and complete every single challenge because I feel there's a lot going on and one of the

[00:35:59] things I was just thinking of while playing rivals as weak is I just wish we got a point for a draw

[00:36:04] offer for playing the game just regardless of anything just a point for playing the game because you

[00:36:08] go through a whole game and you end the game losing on the last minute and you get nothing from

[00:36:13] the game you've got to restart again at least a point will just appease you and say okay that's

[00:36:17] time well spent let's just move on and then 45 points kind of makes sense then better yet

[00:36:22] shack and some of the rivals go for and again some of the used to exist in rivals start giving

[00:36:27] points for people scoring goals why not make it five five points for a win three points for a

[00:36:35] for a draw one for a defeat and then a bonus point if you score three or more goals how much better

[00:36:42] would that make it to have that incentive of okay I've got a three three draw I've got four points

[00:36:48] here or even if I've lost you know four three I've got two points again whether that is

[00:36:54] a lines with how it year because they've got this data and they know what the driving engagement

[00:36:58] and things like that so whether that aligns Adam says in the live chat again another perk being

[00:37:03] in the discord gets this as live as we record this he says 10 wins or so it'll be fine 45 is

[00:37:07] now as the game is new the people will get tired of it really fast I think well let's move back

[00:37:15] to week and leave because oh sorry go on shack can I just say one I really want to ask you guys this

[00:37:20] is well last week we all spoke about how hard and annoying it was to get the 45 points this week

[00:37:26] it's Monday and you were sorry it's Tuesday and I would Monday I had that got my 45 points and

[00:37:30] that wasn't I wasn't grinding hard I was just playing as I was playing the previous week but

[00:37:35] I breeze through my 45 points this week did you guys have the same experience as well?

[00:37:42] Yeah absolutely like I said I fell at founder formation which you put me on to shack

[00:37:47] that I started to really enjoy again knowing the game a little bit more plus you know people

[00:37:53] sort of empty and out the divisions a little bit more like spreading out I found it really easy

[00:37:57] I managed to get promoted to do what I'm in the four now I think it is same as you done

[00:38:02] which I usually the last even the promotion games you like traditionally are pretty horrific I

[00:38:08] didn't find the promotion game to hire it either so it was it was a definite different feeling but

[00:38:13] again I don't know whether that's just because people are sorry to spread out a little bit more now

[00:38:18] So I think maybe yes we're going I'm going to say yeah I think that's probably

[00:38:22] definitely a thing and I played between Thursday and Sunday all my games I played most of them in

[00:38:28] and I was just we were just they were to get on streak and it's the streaks that made things a lot easier

[00:38:32] to get promoted because instead of it being every game is a real war where it was you know win one lose one

[00:38:38] you did get the occasional player that you could tell oh they've probably just come up from

[00:38:41] defive that team isn't as good and we were ever to get past them sorry shack what were you going to say?

[00:38:47] No just basically that I think eventually there will be a decision that every

[00:38:51] EFC player has to make which I made last year was I consciously met an effort not to go into

[00:38:56] lead division because I just just wanted to play my seven get my seven wins and move on because

[00:39:01] I didn't really think that it rewards with that much better and that's the constitution

[00:39:05] conscious decision I made and I think this year is well last time goes on I know you guys

[00:39:10] lack to compete and lack to go as far as you can possibly go where's people like me I think

[00:39:15] that I would like to take a an approach where I would like to play and be as comfortable as I can

[00:39:19] get the rewards that I could possibly get and just move on rather than try to compete every single game

[00:39:23] you say that but sorry sorry I thought I was going to say that's kind of what EFC

[00:39:28] can bat though aren't they because they've brought in this movement now between elite and if three

[00:39:33] so now you can't as easily say well I'm not going to get promoted because you may as well play

[00:39:38] those games and get relegated and you'll just find yourself at the bottom of death three

[00:39:42] I know people already annoyed that they can't get relegated lower if you're in four five six

[00:39:47] I then below I think you can't get relegated beyond that division sorry go ahead may

[00:39:51] I was like that and we can leave last year I took the time to look at the rewards and I figured

[00:39:56] like nine rewards were fine 11 would decent in a hint of them was a bonus so I always said if I get

[00:40:02] to nine like I'm happy if I can't be bothered I'll call it a day at nine push to 11 be for the

[00:40:08] extra picks that's great anything about that is like a win and I'm you know I must be enjoying myself

[00:40:13] and I see that with we can leave for rivals I don't know why in rivals but my head is

[00:40:18] programmed that I have to get all the wins and the top reward and rivals

[00:40:23] usually like I think last year I think there wasn't a lot of change between different one and

[00:40:27] dev two and I think when they upgraded the rewards to the end of the year elite was just like

[00:40:33] sublime compared to the rest so that was when I kind of thought no I'm going to keep going back to

[00:40:37] the first time was by accident and after that I was like no those rewards actually I think it was

[00:40:41] like the promo packs and the player picks and stuff I was like that is worth the grind in my eyes

[00:40:46] yep very much agree and right we are rapidly running out of time and we've got a couple of

[00:40:50] features left to get to plus a couple of questions still left in the mailbox so let's move on to

[00:40:54] one of them now let's go to player in review that was player in review for the benefit of those

[00:41:06] who misheard me speaking let's play the games it's a great sting

[00:41:11] player in review there we go you've all heard it you know twice to make up for my

[00:41:18] lacks technical skills check who have you picked for player in review this week I really enjoyed using

[00:41:26] smaller egg this week and I just randomly just bottom off the market don't ask me why he just

[00:41:31] caught my eye I just bottom off the market just to try and mark and he was a whole lot of fun I

[00:41:35] think in these early stages where these kind of these kind of players that have slightly

[00:41:39] just a slight edge are really useful again so I'm positioned that's using a starter team or even

[00:41:44] basic goal of team it was he was just Steve rolling through people and just scoring some amazing

[00:41:49] goals and even though his base is not extremely electric he just felt electric on the ball and

[00:41:54] he was just running past a lot of people and I think at some point in time we will get a base I

[00:41:59] got sorry a base hero pack and some people that are listening to the podcast will probably back him

[00:42:03] and just not really pay too much attention but he's actually a really fun card now I think that's

[00:42:09] a card that you can probably look out for. Excellent, nice to have you gone for. Yeah unfortunately

[00:42:13] I've gone to the dark side I've gone for Darwin, Ninn is evoed. Um, can I do something naughty this last

[00:42:21] week? He's on check so he's on check so he's on check so he's on real. I was looking for a bit of

[00:42:26] pace and a bit of power up top evoedems we had the power shot plus him and Rashford up top

[00:42:31] that is tremendous like he barely misses and he's a bit of a bully I quite like him in real

[00:42:37] life he's probably my favorite Liverpool player because he's like captain chaos like I don't

[00:42:42] really follow on on on on it I can't believe a manchage you're not a fan has just taught by

[00:42:46] his favorite Liverpool player honestly. Honestly, I could watch him all day because you never

[00:42:51] know what he's going to do he doesn't know what he's going to do I think it's hilarious like

[00:42:55] it's like when you you know you put petrol on the fire and see which way it's going to explode

[00:42:58] he's a bit like that so I he's actually really good in game he's always like since he's been

[00:43:03] in it he's actually been pretty good in game to be fair I play Fortriple 2 and he leads

[00:43:08] to line really well he's he haven't Rashford are just prolific together a bit of pace but

[00:43:12] flare yeah he's unfortunately is really good but he fits the team and sometimes you have to

[00:43:17] take your your club alliances hat off when you need someone to score goals. I can cast

[00:43:23] correctly say there will never be an Oxford or a Swinden player in my football

[00:43:27] summer team. Good story that now. Let's probably not be an FC 20 for 20 if I have anyone

[00:43:31] I look as we are convened excuse but I'll let I give you a second stick to stick by that

[00:43:37] I'm going to review Muciala who I've used in a couple of different roles actually

[00:43:41] I've been using the 42312 tactics that John Heatherfoot coaching has released into our discord

[00:43:49] as well I think there are actually online as well as a bit of a taster for those of you not currently

[00:43:53] part of the page on a part of the discord. I've only been great as a shadow striker making

[00:43:59] those kind of late runs I love that you know the technical dribbling is not you know tech

[00:44:03] plus isn't as good this year as it was last year but it is still decent on a player like him

[00:44:08] I think it's finishing as much better than I would thought it was going to be the pace seems

[00:44:13] there even though again it's a low face cast at and also played him out wide on the left as

[00:44:17] well and he does a fairly solid job there I don't think it's his best position I definitely

[00:44:22] think it is in that kind of cam roll I'm not sure how he would fare as a box to box either

[00:44:27] but I do think just as a pure cam he just is really nice and that nice little rounder that you need

[00:44:32] to be able to link the midfield and the striker for so again so I think he's about 100 k at

[00:44:36] the moment and if you're building a bit putting a bit of a Bundesliga team together as well

[00:44:40] a little bit of a shout out as well as Michael Lisa's inform and not just because he's a form

[00:44:44] of running player again I think for about 30 k at the moment he again is one of those players

[00:44:49] at players above his start I think the main thing that puts a lot of people off is that two

[00:44:53] style week for and you don't notice it as much and I don't know if he's shaking his head here

[00:44:57] because he's used to me in my co-op team and didn't get on with him as much as I do but I still

[00:45:03] think for the price again I was using Chloe Kelly there before I think he's definitely better than

[00:45:07] Kelly or go what are you would expect for 25 k more but yeah a little shout out to Michael Lisa

[00:45:12] who I think could be a nice that there's my investment tip as well as and I'll play this sting here

[00:45:19] foot coaching's top tip. Buy a Michael Lisa and stick him in the club somewhere because

[00:45:25] that 84-reted card with the stats the way he is is a massive prime screaming candidate for

[00:45:31] there's going to be an even in about three or four weeks that fits him and for 30 k right now

[00:45:37] the absolute most you will ever be able to lose on him is 20,000 coins and I don't think he'll even

[00:45:42] go back to discard at least for a long time so that would be that'll be my top tip

[00:45:47] and that concludes player in review just before we write off into the sense that two final

[00:45:52] questions from our mailbag. Got my maxes question for the pod with these cards being live

[00:45:58] into January meeting the roads to the knockout cards. In the play of these clubs in the window

[00:46:02] will the upgraded card change clubs shack? I think so I think they have done that in the past

[00:46:08] they have actually moved the club moved to persons yeah I do a country member

[00:46:13] Quincy promise I remember being one of them if you go that's right there's another

[00:46:17] real mouple ears will I can't really think of this yeah it does happen it does happen

[00:46:21] yeah so what generally tends to happen is if they move to a club in the same competition and

[00:46:27] not sure if it applies different competitions they will transfer club and the card will stay live

[00:46:32] if they transfer a club not in the competition the card effectively goes dead

[00:46:37] it doesn't then count the upgrades for the club they're playing at no longer count

[00:46:42] that as far as they've done it in the past whether that will change the sheer or it might just be

[00:46:46] a gigantic EA oversight not realizing now that the cards go past the January window so

[00:46:54] it remains to be seen but yes that is how we understand it if they move to another card in a European

[00:46:58] competition it will just change that competition if they move to another club out of the competition

[00:47:03] the card will go dead and the final question of the day from John talking for how do you get

[00:47:08] packs to improve your team if you can't get five rivals wins or champs entry squad battle packs

[00:47:14] so far are mid I think I got three packs last week

[00:47:18] now if you're finding generating packs outside of those reward windows to trick you at the moment

[00:47:25] yeah it's not as free flow and as it gets in certain stages but there's definitely ways around

[00:47:30] that you can do draft even offline draft gives you a few there's still loads of

[00:47:36] loads of things to do it for the foundations and the milestones stuff that I've not even touched

[00:47:41] the 77 plus double that's back again and that's repeatable now I got the 86

[00:47:47] no 87 best on you in 11 doveski out of that in my first two today so that wasn't really bad

[00:47:52] they're not really usable for me but it's nice to get a bit hydrated fodder and just keep

[00:47:58] like the so many game modes out there that we can do like the good thing is that we you know

[00:48:03] we weren't sure how friendly it was going to go it wasn't capped at you know 15 matches for your 10

[00:48:08] whatever so I managed to do that in a certain but you can you can take your time with that

[00:48:13] even some of these world tour players and the player ones come with packs as well so

[00:48:18] I think there is plenty of ways to do it we just need to be clever about how you're looking

[00:48:21] the menu and then even with rivals like we say just just learn the game a little bit you know

[00:48:26] take your time don't put the pressure on the ultimate reward learning the game learn your squad

[00:48:30] and you know five wins it will be achievable no matter what level you're at you just need to sort of

[00:48:36] chill take the you know John we we know John likes to get a bit stressed when somebody presses him as well

[00:48:42] you know it's those things that go back to basics again and just relax a little bit more and

[00:48:47] don't focus on the overall end game because you know it's a marathon this game it's not sprint

[00:48:51] yeah and again the major point in the race there the amount of milestones of foundations

[00:48:56] just combine those with a few squad battles and you'll tend to find the 75 plus 2s and 3s and stuff

[00:49:03] start rolling in for that as well I think so I don't know the pack collecting front shack

[00:49:08] I know exactly what as Nate said there's not really too many ways such you can actually collect packs

[00:49:12] apart from the rewards such you get and but one of the things that are really notices here is

[00:49:17] it's the back content is less but then the packs are not really more valuable if you if that makes sense

[00:49:22] it's not like up you're backing things really left right and center from playing as as we as I just

[00:49:28] mentioned that qualifying for charms and I got absolutely nothing I finished my rush objectives and I

[00:49:33] think so it's not they're not really giving you exactly what you want so these packs are great

[00:49:38] and I think the the SBCs are probably the easiest way you can get messengers in their

[00:49:43] speedy comes out do that and hopefully the best I guess yeah and just look a very final word again

[00:49:47] I don't we don't tend to delve too much into content on this shows because that is going to be handled

[00:49:51] kind of by the daily shows that John and Invee often copiloting have been doing but again just any

[00:49:57] final thoughts on content this week Nathan you think you think I'm going to do that I'm not going

[00:50:02] to do that just in 30 seconds or so just you feel it's on the cold content for the past week

[00:50:07] To be honest the contents for once hasn't really gripped me usually I do most of the SBCs there's

[00:50:13] not been one here that I've been like I must do the 77 double upgrade I'll keep doing every now

[00:50:19] and then I've emptied my juice storage onto it so that's pretty much my mean to throw out a

[00:50:24] that trail I thought I did Alabama I think we mentioned last week potentially did Alabama he's

[00:50:29] actually been well worth it so thank you guys for forced me to do that but apart from that I actually

[00:50:34] think it's been quite mid this level of especially the players in the SBCs so far yeah and

[00:50:40] Shaq your your brief thoughts on content I think the contents it's lacking a little bit I wish

[00:50:45] there was a little bit more than just to keep us engaged because there was no evolution there was

[00:50:52] UCL marking match up tomorrow or that'll that'll spice things up at least

[00:50:57] yep agreed I've just not been captivated by the likes of some maximum and

[00:51:03] it was it like so so I think we had yesterday things are that so all just very mid

[00:51:09] again SBCs I think they could have released those a few days earlier and they would have been a lot better

[00:51:13] looking but already were at the stage where we've been helping place it's pretty release there

[00:51:18] just very met options I look we're going to wrap that up because we've been gone on for long enough

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[00:51:54] there'll be a fully fledged proper show in a vertical as episode 627 that will be out

[00:52:00] sadly morning again you get it early if you're in the patreon as well because i'll recall that

[00:52:05] on Friday night when we get roads the knockouts team two against and big fish apparently in

[00:52:10] that promo team based on the league so far so be interested to get there the guy starts on that one

[00:52:15] we will hopefully return next Tuesday and you know we may be more disheveled and crying

[00:52:21] wrecks husks of men after trying to go through the first weekend league of the season but

[00:52:25] whatever happens will be here to recount our experiences thank you so much for your time I've

[00:52:29] went as a great week both on the virtual pitch and off it in her hope hoping for health happiness

[00:52:34] and all of those good positive thoughts from us but in the meantime just one thing left to do

[00:52:39] anything else Nathan drop it. Shack drop it we are going to drop it thank you everybody

[00:52:48] drop it.